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Old 10-07-12, 05:14 PM   #1
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Single Speed Cinelli Gazzetta build - Suggestions

TL;DR: Need input on my build list before I start purchasing everything on it. Feel free to comment on parts incompatibility etc.

Been lurking for a few months, my current SS is nothing to write home about and I now want to ride something I can appreciate. Anyways, after lots of research and time spent getting the list together, I wanted to solicit y'alls advice prior to dropping the cash.

Was going for a classic inspired modern build if that makes any sense. Blue frame, brown seat/straps/griptape, high polish/chrome/silver everywhere else. Modern wheels/crank/chain ring.

5'11", 32" inseam
Frame: Cinelli Gazzetta Blue, 56CM
Front Wheel: H Plus Son SL42 Machined for front brake, High Polish Silver, 32H
Rear Wheel: H Plus Son SL42 High Polish Silver, 32H
Free Wheel: White Industries 16T
Crankset: SRAM Omnium 170mm, silver
Chain ring: Sugino ZEN 51T, silver
Rear hub: Phil Wood high-polish silver 32H Fixed/Free 120mm rear hub
Front Hub: Phil Wood 100mm, 32h, silver
Head Set: Chris King 1 1/8 Threadless Silver
Handle bars: Nitto B123, Steel/polished
Brake lever(s): Dia-Compe MX122, polished
Brake set: Campagnolo Athena Skeleton, silver
Tires: Gatorskins? Gum wall?
Seat Post: Velo Orange Long Set back
Saddle: Brooks B15 Swallow Honey or brown
Pedals: MKS GR-9 Silver
Clips: MKS
Straps: Brooks
Stem: Velo Orange, threadless
Chain ring bolts to accomodate Zen+Omnium
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Have you seen the high polish finish sl42 in real life?
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They seem kind of dull/muted. This is what turned me on to them. What're your thoughts on them?



Full disclosure: I may just get the H + Son box wheels to stay more in line with the classic mantra.
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They are very, very shiny, Mirror finish would be better describing than high polished. Not dull at all.



They constantly cast this reflection:


Might not be what you want.
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Go with the box section rims. Lose the Omniums and forget about track drops.
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Go with the box section rims. Lose the Omniums and forget about track drops.
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Some nice classy road drops and old school cranks like the IRD Defiant or the real thing used


I forget who else has similar cranks.
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Some nice classy road drops and old school cranks like the IRD Defiant or the real thing used


I forget who else has similar cranks.
Affinity does

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They seem kind of dull/muted. This is what turned me on to them. What're your thoughts on them?



Full disclosure: I may just get the H + Son box wheels to stay more in line with the classic mantra.
If you're getting box sections, keep in mind that H + Son ones are a lot heavier than your other options if weight is a consideration.
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If you're getting box sections, keep in mind that H + Son ones are a lot heavier than your other options if weight is a consideration.
But also keep in mind that any box section is going to be lighter than the SL42's.
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TL;DR: Need input on my build list before I start purchasing everything on it. Feel free to comment on parts incompatibility etc.

Been lurking for a few months, my current SS is nothing to write home about and I now want to ride something I can appreciate. Anyways, after lots of research and time spent getting the list together, I wanted to solicit y'alls advice prior to dropping the cash.

Was going for a classic inspired modern build if that makes any sense. Blue frame, brown seat/straps/griptape, high polish/chrome/silver everywhere else. Modern wheels/crank/chain ring.

Free Wheel: White Industries 16T
Crankset: SRAM Omnium 170mm, silver
Chain ring: Sugino ZEN 51T, silver
Handle bars: Nitto B123, Steel/polished
Straps: Brooks
Agreed, lose the track drops. Some decent silver drops out there, depending on the clamp size you're using.

Also, not feeling the omniums on that bike. Like everyone else said, IRD's would look good.

51/16 gearing, even if it's single speed. I dunno about that.

And go with Exustar straps. Ya don need Brooks.
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brooks bartape and straps are made in china. They suck, and are nowhere near the same quality as their saddles.
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TB14 rims instead of the SL42's and a Campy Pista crank instead of the SRAM is what I would personally do.
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Go with the box section rims. Lose the Omniums and forget about track drops.
+1 to this, although I like my polished deep v's a bit more. I was considering this frame as well. GL with the build
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Solid advice in here guys. Much appreciated!

1) How about the hubs? High flange is my preference, have read plenty of threads discussing both. Largely just weight being a factor.

2) As far as weight is concerned, if I go with box sections, have any companies in mind? Admittedly I haven't searched for them as everything else.

3) Exustar straps, my quick googling is only returning the double laminated ones, thought those won't work with my pedals?

4) I've been at 44/16 for quite awhile and I want more speed on the high end since I'm currently burning myself out. I live in Houston so there are no hills here (under and overpasses). I was going to go with 48/15 however White Industries does not produce a 15T freewheel, so the next step up was 51/16. Am I missing something here?

5) I already have a road going handlebar set up. Ridden a few bikes around here with track drops and I dig the aggressiveness. This isn't a commuter bike by any means, just want a fast bike to ride after work and to do a few group rides on.
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+1 to this, although I like my polished deep v's a bit more. I was considering this frame as well. GL with the build
What frame did you go with? EAI Bareknuckle is also in the running for me.
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i don't think a zen chainring goes with the rest of your build, imo. I second the IRD defiant crankset
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Solid advice in here guys. Much appreciated!

1) How about the hubs? High flange is my preference, have read plenty of threads discussing both. Largely just weight being a factor.

2) As far as weight is concerned, if I go with box sections, have any companies in mind? Admittedly I haven't searched for them as everything else.
1) Dura Ace, Zusue Pro or All City Sheriff's

2) H+ Son TB14 and Mavic Open Pro or CXP22
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5) I already have a road going handlebar set up. Ridden a few bikes around here with track drops and I dig the aggressiveness. This isn't a commuter bike by any means, just want a fast bike to ride after work and to do a few group rides on.
It's really just not smart, especially when you're running a freewheel.
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1) As for the hub, I'm pretty dead set on the Phil's as they look gorgeous to me, Box wheels it is for me however.

I do like the look of the Defiant crank set, however the 46T chain ring is what's deterring me from pulling the trigger on it. Blah, have already been doing chain ring compatibility research on the Omnium + ZEN. Do any of you all know off hand what chain rings will go well pair well with the IRD and still retain my desired 51/16 ratio?

Thanks for handling all of my newb questions and not getting getting all elitist on me everyone. Been doing a lot of research but it's nice getting input relatively quickly.
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It's really just not smart, especially when you're running a freewheel.
This just due to the positioning/back/wrist strain? I still plan on running some cross top brake levers..
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This just due to the positioning/back/wrist strain? I still plan on running some cross top brake levers..
cross top levers, on bars that dont have tops.
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3) Exustar straps, my quick googling is only returning the double laminated ones, thought those won't work with my pedals?

5) I already have a road going handlebar set up. Ridden a few bikes around here with track drops and I dig the aggressiveness. This isn't a commuter bike by any means, just want a fast bike to ride after work and to do a few group rides on.
Run the second strap over the clip and under the pedal, you can use longer bolts to keep the strap extra secure, but you don't have to. You can find pics in this forum. Or, you can cut them into singles. That's what I did and they work fine. If you're going single speed, might be even better.

About the track drops, how long did you ride with them? 20 miles? Like Frenchie said, it ain't smart, especially if you're gonna be coasting. Your back will thank you for it.
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cross top levers, on bars that dont have tops.
That's what I'm saiyan.
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I'd go box section. I wish the Archetypes were machined. Never had experience with the Athena brakes and I understand the cinelli/campy pairing but I'm pretty happy with my 105 (the new version) FWIW.

Couldn't hurt to try out some gumwalls either.
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Yeah not following. Mind cluing me in? I've seen quite a few B123's with brake levers, maybe my terminology is incorrect.
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