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    H+S or Velocity?

    So I want to build a new bike. It's going to be a univega road frame converted to fixed. It'll be running 42/17. I'm wondering if I should get H+S f30 or Velocity Deep Vs? Or anything else? I want the rims to be deeper than 25 and shallower than 40. Don't care much about spoke count as long as they're strong and light wheels.

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    My head is spinning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FixedDriveJess View Post
    So I want to build a new bike. It's going to be a univega road frame converted to fixed. It'll be running 42/17. I'm wondering if I should get H+S f30 or Velocity Deep Vs? Or anything else? I want the rims to be deeper than 25 and shallower than 40. Don't care much about spoke count as long as they're strong and light wheels.

    Thanks guys!
    Deep Vs and F30s are by no means light rims. What's your intended purpose for these? Are the roads you ride crappy and necesitate bombproof wheels or could you shed some weight and go for lighter rims?

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    I want something deep section and light, for my really heavy bike.
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    KinLin XR300.

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    Velocity. But ONLY If you're running 44/15.
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    KinLins are out, then. Those are only good on bikes with 70+ gear inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayce View Post
    I want something deep section and light, for my really heavy bike.
    generally speaking deep section and light do not go together in the world of rims. more material = more weight
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    I don't mean b43 deep, just deeper than 25. What's the deal with these kinlins? Are they decent?
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    Yeah, KinLin XR-270/XR-300.

    Substantially lighter than most rims at that depth.
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    Try to read some legitimate information about bicycle wheels, and then realize the minimal effect that rim depth actually has.
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    inb4 OP is mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
    Try to watch some youtube videos, and then realize the maximal effect that rim depth actually has on street cred.
    got any links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    KinLin XR300.
    Just looked these up, seem pretty reasonably priced. Can you vouch for quality?

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    It's not very likely Scrodzilla would sell something he thinks is junk. Various people on here have KinLin's. I'd say you're more than fine.
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    Kinlin makes rims for other large brands. Ithinktheyreok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bat56 View Post
    got any links?
    Here ya bro, bro.

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    So, I htink it's between Mich Pistard and the KinLins. Now the question is hubs. I want high end hubs. I want hubs that will not fail. Philwood quality, maybe even philwoods. I don't want anything thats going to get dirt inside, or can't stand riding in rain. I've heard Paul, Chub, and Philwoods are the best. But I want some forum word. Thanks!
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    Miche Pistard are really heavy, and anything you build with phils are going to be boat anchors as well.

    KinLin XR-300's, sapim lasers, Novatec track hubs.

    Great quality hubs, sealed bearings, also one of the lightest track hubsets available. Wheelset would be in the ballpark of 1600g, and extremely cost effective.
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    Wait, bth wheels together would be 1600g? That's absurdly light. I may have to go that way. THanks for the word Nagrom_!
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    How much do you thik a cmplete wheel set would cost? Just a rough estimate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FixedDriveJess View Post
    Wait, bth wheels together would be 1600g? That's absurdly light. I may have to go that way. THanks for the word Nagrom_!
    That was just throwing out a number, just did the math and it comes out 1706g:
    (4.36*64(spokes)) + (.9*64(nipples)) + (.15*64(veloplugs)) + (465*2(XR-300)) + 168(front hub) + 262(rear hub) = 1706g complete.

    This is just based on manufacturers advertised weights, which are probably 5-10%.

    Quote Originally Posted by FixedDriveJess View Post
    How much do you thik a cmplete wheel set would cost? Just a rough estimate.
    Just threw it all in my cart at RG. came out to $317.70 shipped in the US. Add about 45 bucks per wheel if you want them built.

    So about $400, or the price of Phil Wood hubs... haha.
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    Also, that above price is using black spokes and nipples, which are a little bit more expensive.

    Using silver brings the cost down to $298.50 shipped. Again, add about 90 bucks for build cost.
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    This is a cheap ass wheel set. damn! I'll be building them with a buddy of mine who works at the LBS. Thanks for the word Nagrom_, you probably just saved me 200 bucks and a pund or two.
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    I have lost count the amount of times I have seen Nagrom post about the same suggested wheel build.

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