Vallie Components Hubs
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Vallie Components Hubs
Pretty new and awesome, they are in beta testing now and in the Indianapolis show this weekend:
https://valliecomponents.com/
https://cyclingwmd.blogspot.com/2009/...-beefiest.html
Disclaimer: I've got no financial or other interest in this company, but Lyle's a great guy and part of the extended ZooBomb family, so I'm just trying to spread the word; these hubs don't really need any advertising, they should sell themselves!
https://valliecomponents.com/
https://cyclingwmd.blogspot.com/2009/...-beefiest.html
Disclaimer: I've got no financial or other interest in this company, but Lyle's a great guy and part of the extended ZooBomb family, so I'm just trying to spread the word; these hubs don't really need any advertising, they should sell themselves!
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These were conceived and designed one floor upstairs from where I'm typing. You truly have to see one of these side-by-side with a Phil to get a proper sense of just how burly they really are.
The cogs aren't proprietary. They utilize International Standard disc drilling and are readily available from at least two other sources: Tomicog and London Fixie Bike.
The cogs aren't proprietary. They utilize International Standard disc drilling and are readily available from at least two other sources: Tomicog and London Fixie Bike.
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I weighed mine before I built it up and, without the cog, it weighs 463g. The cog weighs less than the EAI cog I took off.
More photos here.
More photos here.
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They look gorgeous.
Though i'm curious-- what's the benefit of bolt on vs screw on hubs? aside from the occasional knucklehead, are stripped hubs a big problem, or is this meant to resolve some other issue?
Though i'm curious-- what's the benefit of bolt on vs screw on hubs? aside from the occasional knucklehead, are stripped hubs a big problem, or is this meant to resolve some other issue?
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Originally Posted by Lyle Vallie
For those wondering, the weight (with 6 bolts) is 470grams. A Phil hub with lockring is 390g. Mine are designed to be abused though.
The bolt pattern is 6xM5 44mm BCD (the ISO disc brake standard). Level hubs use a smaller BCD 3 bolt pattern, which is proprietary and patented, making it exclusive. I feel that the 6 bolt pattern is plenty strong enough for cogs, and with more companies making cogs, the better chance it has at becoming a standard. Cogs are currently made by Tomicog, Renovo Italy, and Velosolo.
I got a really good response at NAHBS this past weekend, and I have a few dealers interested in carrying them when I get into production quantities.
If you're into it, add the RSS link from my site to your reader, I'll be posting updates as they come.
The bolt pattern is 6xM5 44mm BCD (the ISO disc brake standard). Level hubs use a smaller BCD 3 bolt pattern, which is proprietary and patented, making it exclusive. I feel that the 6 bolt pattern is plenty strong enough for cogs, and with more companies making cogs, the better chance it has at becoming a standard. Cogs are currently made by Tomicog, Renovo Italy, and Velosolo.
I got a really good response at NAHBS this past weekend, and I have a few dealers interested in carrying them when I get into production quantities.
If you're into it, add the RSS link from my site to your reader, I'll be posting updates as they come.
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Hey, thanks for the kind words and feedback guys.
Both the Level hubs and the white industry hubs are indeed beautiful designs. There's no doubt about that. I don't expect my product to be for everyone.
The idea behind this hub is for it to be SIMPLE and ROBUST. Its taken a while to get this project off the ground because there are a lot of intricate little details that have to be taken care of when designing a product meant to take abuse.
I'll be updating my site as progress comes along=]
Both the Level hubs and the white industry hubs are indeed beautiful designs. There's no doubt about that. I don't expect my product to be for everyone.
The idea behind this hub is for it to be SIMPLE and ROBUST. Its taken a while to get this project off the ground because there are a lot of intricate little details that have to be taken care of when designing a product meant to take abuse.
I'll be updating my site as progress comes along=]
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Nice
I run a similar set-up on my mountain bikes with a Tomicog. I like being able to easily swap gears depending if it's going to be a long day of climbing, slow technical or fast track. I've been hoping someone would so something like this with a 120 hub. Any estimated ETA and pricing yet, or is it still too early in prototyping?
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Its a bit early yet. I am aiming to do the revision soon, and an autumn release.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Lyledriver:
Is this cnc machined or cold forged? What is your retail outlet going to be or will this be a web store?
Is this cnc machined or cold forged? What is your retail outlet going to be or will this be a web store?
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This version was CNCed out of 6061 billet. I may move to 7075 for the bearing collars on the next revision. I have installed a zencart on my site to use for the webstore, though I'll be working with a few shops for resale as well.
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Last Sunday I rode this hub around the whole island of Manhattan, with a brief excursion into Brooklyn. The hub is redonculously beefy, and the Vallie cog on it was nice and quiet---Lyle is experimenting with tooth profiles and the version I got seemed to work quite well with the chain i was using.
There is a good argument to be made for a purely ISO disc interface with no proprietary splines on it: there is more than one company making cogs to fit it. We'll see how they hold up over the long term, but I haven't heard anything about failures yet. Keep in mind that this is a system that is intended to bear quite a lot of repeated torsional force from disc braking.
There is a good argument to be made for a purely ISO disc interface with no proprietary splines on it: there is more than one company making cogs to fit it. We'll see how they hold up over the long term, but I haven't heard anything about failures yet. Keep in mind that this is a system that is intended to bear quite a lot of repeated torsional force from disc braking.