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Old 11-16-12, 01:33 PM   #1
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touring fork setup for fixed frame

I'm wondering if the geometry and rake associated with some of the touring forks (LHT or Ogre) would be okay for running on a track-scentric frame like the Bareknuckle, Godzilla or even just a steamroller? What I'm after is the lower rack option on a fork along with the extra bottle mounts if possible.
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I'm wondering if the geometry and rake associated with some of the touring forks (LHT or Ogre) would be okay for running on a track-scentric frame like the Bareknuckle, Godzilla or even just a steamroller? What I'm after is the lower rack option on a fork along with the extra bottle mounts if possible.
Just get a cross check frame and build it up fixed.

Do you plan on carrying touring loads with this bike? You might want the option to run two brakes if that is the case. Also, I don't know what you mean when you say extra bottle mounts, you don't get those from the fork.
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Just of the top of my head, you'd end up with a pretty low trail with a 74/75 headtube if all that changed was the rake. If axle-to-crown changed as well it really depends, but you're probably still getting into more relaxed, docile, low-trail handling.

But why?
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Replacing my Handsome that was stolen and thinking that this time I wanted something I could run fixed with my limited loads on a front low rack. More thinking outloud than anything. The Ogre and Fargo fork both have 2 sets of bottle mounts on them.

An Ogre frameset may work for this now that I think about it, but all the extra tidbits on the frame seem like they'd kill the already unclean lines.


Hmm....
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Just get a cross check frame and build it up fixed.

...extra bottle mounts, you don't get those from the fork.
yes you do

OP - someone once said, "I had a steamroller fork on my track bike for a while and found it to be a nice compromise of rigidity and ride quality."
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yes you do
maybe with a specialty fork like the ogre, but not inherently
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Touring forks have bottle braze ons. Pretty standard equipment in that world.
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Touring forks with one threaded boss on each fork leg are designed for use with lowrider racks. Those are not bottle cage mounts.

Touring forks with pairs of bosses for bottles are pretty rare, IME.
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Touring forks with pairs of bosses for bottles are pretty rare, IME.
. . . and they're certainly not for accessing water while riding. They're just for extra transport of water bottles, cooking fuel, etc.
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Which begs the question, why is OP trying to make a track bike into something it is not? If you want water bottle mounts and options for attaching a front lowrider, then why go with a track frame at all? Just get a bike that will work for those purposes.

If you are just occasionally carrying some stuff, why insist that it be on a lowrider? If you want the track geo, but also want carrying capacity you will have to make some compromises.
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If you want something with trackish geo and a fork with lowroider mounts look at the Motobecane Fantom Uno.

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm
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You can get the Surly cross fork by itself as well. I ran one on my IRO, though it felt a little "floaty".
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Because I, the OP, am too stubborn to admit that there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Unfortunately, that's going to be the case here.

The Handsome I built up originally was a custom-built conversion to FG; it worked well, but suffered from being too pretty. While that may seem odd, having the Brooks bartape and a B-17 immediately limited riding conditions. This time around I want to build up something that is 100 % useful and muted enough to not draw attention.
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Because I, the OP, am too stubborn to admit that there is no one-size-fits-all solution. Unfortunately, that's going to be the case here.

The Handsome I built up originally was a custom-built conversion to FG; it worked well, but suffered from being too pretty. While that may seem odd, having the Brooks bartape and a B-17 immediately limited riding conditions. This time around I want to build up something that is 100 % useful and muted enough to not draw attention.
Again, you might be happy with a cross check, it meets your requirements.
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Again, you might be happy with a cross check, it meets your requirements.
I agree wholeheartedly. Thanks for the info Zoltani.
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Get the Travellers Check, maybe they'll only steal half of it.
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I hate to admit it, but I agree about the Cross Check. It's boring and it's not very pretty, but it will absolutely get the job done. If I had my druthers though, I'd get an All City Space Horse.
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