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Old 11-26-12, 07:51 PM   #1
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Sugino zen vs FSA pro track chainring

Just tell me the differences in performance for those of you who have ridden both.
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Old 11-26-12, 07:55 PM   #2
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The Zen is made of better aluminum and will last a lot longer.
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You probably won't notice a difference.

If you do a ratio of difference in price/ difference in cost, you will see the FSA ring is where it's at.
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You probably won't notice a difference.
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I was being too factual.

It really comes down to whether you're looking for Jakarta points or San Jose points.
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I like my Zen rings alot, but everyone knows I got them just for the look.
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FSA rings are a great value and very stiff - but I've noticed on the ones I've used that the teeth get dimpled by the chain fairly easily, which doesn't happen to my Sugino rings.
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Also, what is the difference between these two Zen rings? Is it just the branding mark or is one a better make?



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Branding. The Japanese ones give you more points.
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More Jakarta points. Go with the English branding for bonus SJ points.
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Yup, I didnt read!
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I own and race both brands. The only difference that I can see is that the Zen are lighter and have a better finish, which explains why they cost more.

The Zen are lighter because the backs are milled-out to remove material:



The FSA are not. This is the reverse:


Both the front and reverse have "FSA" printed on it, but the reverse uses a smaller font.

Front:


Solid rings are prefered over standard cut-out rings because the cut-out rings warp under heavy sprinters. If you aren't going to warp one, just use the standard Sugino 75 type rings, which are lighter and cheaper than the Zen:



The FSA are the best bang for the buck in terms of solid race gear. They are even cheaper and stronger. But, not as light as the others.
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This is race-spec equipment, all of which will perform the same for non-race use. So, with that being said, pick the one that you like the most.
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Also, what is the difference between these two Zen rings? Is it just the branding mark or is one a better make?



These are the same. The only difference being the Japanese and English logos.
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