NJS vs non NJS
To get specific
My friend is trying to sell me some used superbe pro cranksfor $100 (which usually go for $200 used). However, I am seeing same condition if not better omniums on CL for just a few bucks more. I'm leaning towards the omniums, but the NJS stamp... THE NJS STAMP!!! I just want to know what to get, non NJS cranksets like miche and omniums look just as good as NJS, and I feel like I'm just paying for the NJS stamp and the craftsmanship(which doesn't necessarily mean better performance) when buying NJS stuff. So tell me what you think, are NJS equipment really worth that much more money compared to non NJS? |
Nope. It's all hype
I love Suntour though, so get those. |
$100 for SSP crankarms is a steal.
Anyway as far was swagpoints goes... Campy > DA > SSP > 75 > Omnium > Miche |
grab that SSP
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Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 14988228)
$100 for SSP crankarms is a steal.
Anyway as far was swagpoints goes... Campy > DA > SSP > 75 > Omnium > Miche |
Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 14988228)
$100 for SSP crankarms is a steal.
Anyway as far was swagpoints goes... Campy > DA > SSP > 75 > Omnium > Miche |
I am dug down into the mud.
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I form part of the earths core
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The NJS logo is not a designation of quality or craftsmanship, but rather a designation of compliance to an arbitrary set of standards required for keirin racing. It is meaningless unless you are a professional keirin racer.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 14988761)
It is meaningless unless you need Jakarta points.
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Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 14988228)
$100 for SSP crankarms is a steal.
Anyway as far was swagpoints goes... Campy > DA > SSP > 75 > Omnium > Miche DA > SSP > 75 >> Campy > Omnium > Miche That's why I've got a campagnolo, best bang for the buck IMO. |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 14988761)
It is meaningless unless you are a [strike]professional keirin racer[/strike]******.
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Originally Posted by prooftheory
(Post 14988772)
ftfy
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You guys are not answering the question. I'm not talking about "swag points", I want want PERFORMANCE.
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Dude. Can you read? Clearly it's NO.
Get what you want. |
Originally Posted by TheElitePoop
(Post 14988200)
but the NJS stamp... THE NJS STAMP!!!
I just want to know what to get, non NJS cranksets like miche and omniums look just as good as NJS, and I feel like I'm just paying for the NJS stamp and the craftsmanship(which doesn't necessarily mean better performance)
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 14988761)
The NJS logo is not a designation of quality or craftsmanship, but rather a designation of compliance to an arbitrary set of standards required for keirin racing. It is meaningless unless you are a professional keirin racer.
They are top cranks. Choose which one you like more because you probably wont notice much difference in actual performance. The oversized BB spindle and external bearings of the Omniums is supposed to add stiffness to the system. Go for that if you want more "performance". |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 14988761)
The NJS logo is not a designation of quality or craftsmanship, but rather a designation of compliance to an arbitrary set of standards required for keirin racing. It is meaningless unless you are a professional keirin racer.
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Originally Posted by TheElitePoop
(Post 14990493)
You guys are not answering the question. I'm not talking about "swag points", I want want PERFORMANCE.
Originally Posted by TheElitePoop
(Post 14988200)
I'm leaning towards the omniums, but the NJS stamp... THE NJS STAMP!!!
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Originally Posted by 8bits
(Post 14988786)
swag yes, but as far as price goes...
DA > SSP > 75 >> Campy > Omnium > Miche That's why I've got a campagnolo, best bang for the buck IMO. |
The NJS standards were set in the late 1950s, so with most things the parts stamped are pretty low on the perfomance level. They are nice, but will not perform like modern parts. There are three exceptions: bars, hubs, and cranks.
But with the bars and cranks things are changing. Parts like the 3ttt scattos and outboard bearings are making it so that in 5 years the NJS parts will fall the way of the Hatta headset and araya rims. |
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
(Post 14990832)
Considering silver Sugino 75s are NJS certified but black and other colors are not
Originally Posted by 8bits
(Post 14988786)
swag yes, but as far as price goes...
DA > SSP > 75 >> Campy > Omnium > Miche That's why I've got a campagnolo, best bang for the buck IMO. |
270 with ring http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...ath=87_322_325
315 with ring http://www.retro-gression.com/produc...track-crankset |
Originally Posted by BigglyPuff
(Post 14990931)
That's not why you have campy. Be real.
Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 14992139)
Where are you getting your Campys cheaper than 75s? Campys are like $400 retail.
Originally Posted by hamfoh
(Post 14992156)
270 with ring http://www.velomine.com/index.php?ma...ath=87_322_325
315 with ring http://www.retro-gression.com/produc...track-crankset |
Originally Posted by TheRealFaux
(Post 14992139)
I just thought I'd chime in and say my old pair of black 75s were stamped.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
(Post 14993807)
Both of my newer black sets (as well as the ones in the shop) are not stamped but my silver ones are.
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