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    This one is for anyone that has any general ss/fg question. What does general in terms of this mean? In this instance it means anything in regards to ss/fg. If you have experience with ss/fg and are seeking something very specific and finding that this isn't exactly the thread for you, then perhaps either the "Ask Scrod" or "Dear Carleton" threads will be more useful.

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    What's the deal with twisted spokes? Good, bad, trendy, hipster? I've tried searching around google and all I can find is that there might be minimal strength loss. Seen one person rides it daily, even on 60+ mile rides


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    Probably impossible to keep true. It's also pretty stupid, but that doesn't mean much.
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    Looks cool, but no technical advantages whatsoever over a traditional 2 or 3 cross pattern. It's pretty much just for looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jared1988 View Post
    What's the deal with twisted spokes? Good, bad, trendy, hipster? I've tried searching around google and all I can find is that there might be minimal strength loss. Seen one person rides it daily, even on 60+ mile rides


    http://www.roadwarriorbicycles.com/c...aced-rims.html
    They're bad in my book, such wheels prove difficult to true and holding their true thereafter. It's also very common for most traditional bike shops that aren't really into fixed gear culture to refuse to service or build such a wheel. The structural integrity of such a wheel laced this pattern is questionable too, especially in the long run over time. They seem to be a more modern advent in the cycling world, having been born apparently in the fixie boom. It's better to stick to more traditional time proven patterns. Twisted spokes may either look nice or down right ugly to people, it's all a matter of tastes, to the eyes of the beholder nonetheless.

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    If you're insistent on a standoutish lacing take a look at a crows feet pattern.

    Looks different, but also is structurally sound.
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    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
    It's also very common for most traditional bike shops that aren't really into fixed gear culture to refuse to service or build such a wheel.
    I've turned down wheel builds for customers who wanted wacky twisted spokes.

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    Does anyone know what these handlebars are?

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    16h rear track hub?

    i am about to snag a shamal wheelset...but it might not be such a great thing after all

    it has a 9-speed campag cassette rear hub & of course i don't need road wheels - i want it for fixed

    shamal track hubs are few & far between, phils custom drilled rear hubs are too damn high, & while it appears that miche does offer a 16h rear hub - i can't find any

    are there any other suspects i should know about & be on the look-out for?

    or...

    is using 1/2 the holes on a 32h hub with a 16h rim my latest brilliant idea, or just a jackass recipe for disaster?

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    if you can wait 3 months Mack hubs are superb. Custom made, beautifull and cheap.

    http://www.mackhubs.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
    i am about to snag a shamal wheelset...but it might not be such a great thing after all

    it has a 9-speed campag cassette rear hub & of course i don't need road wheels - i want it for fixed

    shamal track hubs are few & far between, phils custom drilled rear hubs are too damn high, & while it appears that miche does offer a 16h rear hub - i can't find any

    are there any other suspects i should know about & be on the look-out for?

    or...

    is using 1/2 the holes on a 32h hub with a 16h rim my latest brilliant idea, or just a jackass recipe for disaster?
    Bontrager makes a 16h track wheelset. Bontrager Race X Lite Aero Track

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
    is using 1/2 the holes on a 32h hub with a 16h rim my latest brilliant idea, or just a jackass recipe for disaster?
    This is a viable solution

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    Phil wood high flange hubs or dura ace hubs?
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    One is sealed, the other is not.

    Make the choice based on that.
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    there's a version of a sealed dura ace hub can't remember the number.

    I personally would never buy a PW. It's heavy, heard lots of people complain that it doesn't clamp tightly in the dropouts and are overpriced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markaitch View Post
    is using 1/2 the holes on a 32h hub with a 16h rim my latest brilliant idea, or just a jackass recipe for disaster?
    A while ago folks were lacing up rear wheels by using a 32 hole and a 24 hole rim- 16, crossed, on the drive side and 8, radial, on the NDS. I have no idea what you'd do about a rim with offset spoke holes, but it has been done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bits View Post
    heard lots of people complain that it doesn't clamp tightly in the dropouts and are overpriced.
    Well those people need to learn:


    Yes, they are philwood track washers or "domes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8bits View Post
    there's a version of a sealed dura ace hub can't remember the number.
    "Sealed" but not sealed cartridge bearings like the PW has. All it really has according to Shimano's tech specs is a dust cap. You're referring to the 7710's, the low-flange model. The high-flange 7600 model is not sealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsist716 View Post
    "Sealed" but not sealed cartridge bearings like the PW has. All it really has according to Shimano's tech specs is a dust cap. You're referring to the 7710's, the low-flange model. The high-flange 7600 model is not sealed.
    I'm referring to the 7600. I already have Phil Woods but I'm wondering if I should trade for Dura Ace.
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    If you have phil woods, I would just stick with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannihilator View Post
    If you have phil woods, I would just stick with them.
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    What they said dude. +2

    Also, I'm eating crow tonight. Finally have problems with my Surly hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn View Post
    Bontrager makes a 16h track wheelset. Bontrager Race X Lite Aero Track
    They don't make those any longer, plus rims from that vintage frequently cracked, and they mostly used DT Swiss hubs, which had a serious tendency to break flanges. I wouldn't buy any Bontrager wheels with paired spoke designs or DT Swiss hubs, if I were you.

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