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Old 08-07-13, 03:55 PM   #1701
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The rain held off yesterday so I got to put in some real miles (30) on my newest acquisition, the State Bike Co Undefeated. I figured this will give me a good opportunity to post my initial thoughts on the bike. If you hate the brand you might as well stop reading now. Im posting this for anyone who IS curious about the quality. With that said, I made a few part swaps from how it comes stock. I went with a Thomson Elite Setback seat post and a Fizik Antares Vs saddle. I also put on some already wrapped Dimensions Anatomic Road handlebars. I will go with the stock FSA Omega Compact Drops im just waiting for my bar tape to come in. Lastly, I put on some Resist Nomad 700x28c gumwall tires. There is about a cm of clearance in the back, not quite fully slammed. Up front there is only a few mm of clearance between the tire and fork. Im going to switch to something else soon. It is so tight that if glass or a rock get stuck in the tire it could really mess up the fork.








Out of the box the bike was packed neatly and carefully, your standard packaging for any bike box. Cosmetically the bike had one tiny chip in the paint on the fork about 2 by 3 mm in size, it is not deep, just the paint. Seeing as I didnt buy this bike im perfectly fine with it. The bike came with front and rear brakes caliper, cables, and levers all in separate box not installed. The stock saddle is exactly shaped like a vintage Selle Italia Turbo and is actually really comfortable, I just prefer my Fizik, its the best fitting most comfortable saddle I have ever used. I either installed or took off and re-installed everything that needed lubed. their stock installation was correct and didnt find the weird forgot to tighten bolts like I have with other bikes.

The ride quality of this bike was surprising to be honest. 1985-1990 Cannondales are my thing (that period came with aluminum frames and Tange steel forks). This bike seems as stiff but substantially less harsh of a ride. This is probably do to a combination of things, like wider tires, a carbon fork, and less stiff rims. The stock State wheels are adequate thats all I can really say, they are heavy and a deep V style so they are stiff but I would easily assume they come in at over 2000 grams. My biggest issue is the drive train, it isnt whisper quiet like my other bikes. Just a slight ticking thats really annoying. If I tinker a lil im sure I can silence it. Its a KMC K710 I have no prior experience with this chain but it seems to be the cause of the noise. There is a very very small amount of toe overlap which I found surprising as well. Along with this handling is stable and not as twitchy as other bikes I have rode or own. This is more obvious when taking a closer look at the fork rake. As for sizing I didnt look closely at the geometry before getting this, thus I would have noticed the what seems short to me top tube. My size 59 has a 57cm top tube. I feel like I need a longer stem to stretch me out more. I feel a little tight even with the setback seat post. I put on a surly 16t cog I had, to make the gearing 48x16t which seems fine for my area. The last thing I will say is im absolute pleasantly surprised with this bike. Ill let you guys know more in the future. The cost is high for the complete, but I do feel the bike is actually of very high quality.
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Old 08-07-13, 04:47 PM   #1702
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gonna try some deep derps next time at the track

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Greetings,

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new cranks and bars.

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Old 08-08-13, 06:37 AM   #1707
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I don't usually like Super Pistas but that's proper.
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Lastly, I put on some Resist Nomad 700x28c gumwall tires.
Can you eventually give a review of these tires? I have the 26" version but 26"x2.5" is no comparison when I want to try the narrower 700c tires.
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Can you eventually give a review of these tires? I have the 26" version but 26"x2.5" is no comparison when I want to try the narrower 700c tires.
I have tons of experience with them, I have the 35's on my Trek Earl and Volume Cutter. Im running the 28's on my 1987 Cannondale and on the above State Undefeated. I think they are a absolutely great tire. Well above average flat protection when compared to other lower end tires in the same price point, like Continental Ultra Race and Continental Ultra Sport. Smooth easy skid if you care about that. I think they do measure out a little fatter then the listed 700x28c. If your bike has really tight tolerances they most likely wont fit. The ride quality is great but again they are bigger tires so its a more plush feel and a lot less "racey". I would recommend on a commuter or towny. They arnt light thats for sure the 35C's come in at 296 grams.
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Old 08-08-13, 12:22 PM   #1710
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Can you eventually give a review of these tires? I have the 26" version but 26"x2.5" is no comparison when I want to try the narrower 700c tires.
I just put one on the back of my 725 as well. I've literally only ridden on it twice but it feels really nice and I like it quite a bit so far. It doesn't seem like it will be quite as bombproof as a Rando but looks can be deceiving. We'll see how it holds up to the ****ty roads around here.
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Old 08-08-13, 06:12 PM   #1712
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Thanks, Scrod and Richpool.
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gonna try some deep derps next time at the track

this thing is le snazz, but i still need something up front

do v track grips come in neon?
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Old 08-08-13, 08:26 PM   #1714
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I recently bought some Deda Mistral fluo tape



So, that'll be happening soon.

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Old 08-08-13, 09:30 PM   #1715
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Nate yr biek is boneriffic
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Old 08-08-13, 11:10 PM   #1716
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I recently bought some Deda Mistral fluo tape



So, that'll be happening soon.
I think I need this on all my bieks. So dope.
If you can find flouro spokes, one on each wheel by the valve stem would be ace without being #chartreuseabuse

I'm a fan of tasteful hi-viz touches.
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Old 08-09-13, 08:55 AM   #1717
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Latest conversion, was a 26" mtb Miyata Koga Ridgerunner SE.

I have since put on bar tape and adjusted the bars. Still need to dig another black strap out of the parts bin though.
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It's still not a State doe.
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I flippin' love that bike.
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That front tire clearance is silly.
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It's perfect.
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Don't worry, he can always file it.
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Thats how mine is as well.. at first I thought it was awesome, I love ultra tight tolerances in product design. Then I just couldnt get the thought out of my mind, what would happen If for any reason my wheel becomes 2 or more mm out of true? Would it just jam and toss me over the bars? Also tire rub will quickly eat through paint and clear coat into the carbon. I think im to big of a pansy to leave mine like that.
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