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Old 01-11-13, 03:16 PM   #1
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Tubulars for commuting in NYC...it might make sense?

Hear me out. Currently riding on DP18s with Gatorskins. The dp18s have been bombproof and I just ride through all bumps, potholes...etc and I've yet to flat and the wheels hold up fine. I'm pretty disciplined in keeping the tires inflated...but the ride is terrible. I feel like I'm riding an aluminum...thats how bad the vibrations get.

So I want comfort and reliability. Would it be a bad idea to build up a set of wheels 32 3x and perhaps a Vittoria Rally or gatorskin tubular? The rims will be strong enough and i can roll around at 70-80psi.

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What are you running your pressure at?
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Worst idea ever.
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My tubulars are nice to ride, roll fast, but I wouldn't ever call them comfortable. Oh and reliable? Sure, the very expensive tubulars can be pretty flat proof, but the pain in the ass of opening them up, patching them, resewing the, and gluing them is just not worth it.

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can you fit wider tires than what's in there now? I'd do that first.
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What are you running your pressure at?
110 front. 120 rear, this is also what I run my road bike at... I know I can decrease pressure but then I'm opening up risk to pinch flatting. So tubulars might seem like the way to go since I can run 70-80psi no problem right?

And I guess for punctures, I can slime the tubulars to
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Comfort = fatter tire with lower pressure, the complete opposite of tubulars.

If you want comfort go for 28-32mm tourguards or something similar.
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can you fit wider tires than what's in there now? I'd do that first.
I believe my gatorskins are already 25 or 28..don't want to go much wider than that
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I've never heard of anyone running tubulars as low as 80 psi. Someone correct me if i am wrong.i
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Someone correct me if i am wrong.
You're forgetting about MTB and CX tubulars. But, yeah, 80psi is very low for narrow, racing tubulars.
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110 front. 120 rear, this is also what I run my road bike at... I know I can decrease pressure but then I'm opening up risk to pinch flatting. So tubulars might seem like the way to go since I can run 70-80psi no problem right?

And I guess for punctures, I can slime the tubulars to
Run your current tires at 80psi, and don't worry about pinch flats.
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Also, Gatorskins are designed for durability, not ride quality. Switching to the same tire in tubular form is going to give you the same tire.
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Honestly, I'd lace up some A23's and go tubeless before I'd go tubular for commuting.
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I have gatorskins and run them at 90F-100R, 120 is like rocks. Tubulars are great but not convenient for city riding. With sewing and gluing I agree your be going from un-comfortable to a huge headache if you get a flat in a tubular. Do you wear gloves when you ride? Just asking, because that helps with discomfort from vibrations.

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I used to commute on tubulars, but that was many years ago. Back then the cheaper ones were the heavier ones, and most clincher tyres still had wire beads. It was good to be able to get rolling soon after a flat, but puncture repair was a hassle.
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Hear me out. Currently riding on DP18s with Gatorskins. The dp18s have been bombproof and I just ride through all bumps, potholes...etc and I've yet to flat and the wheels hold up fine. I'm pretty disciplined in keeping the tires inflated...but the ride is terrible. I feel like I'm riding an aluminum...thats how bad the vibrations get.

So I want comfort and reliability. Would it be a bad idea to build up a set of wheels 32 3x and perhaps a Vittoria Rally or gatorskin tubular? The rims will be strong enough and i can roll around at 70-80psi.

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Buy, stretch, glue, and install a Tubular or pay someone to do it and get back to us.

Seriously.

Yes, tubulars feel better...but not that much better.
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Have you tried avoiding the potholes?
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I've never heard of anyone running tubulars as low as 80 psi. Someone correct me if i am wrong.i
well, you're not wrong in that maybe you never heard of anybody doing it. but plenty of people do. if i'm (road) racing in any kind of wet weather i'm down around 80.

and for paris-roubaix and races over any terrain remotely similar, people will plunge their pressure well lower. albeit with fatter tires (28mm).

not to mention cyclocross tubulars, which i run under 20psi sometimes.
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I believe my gatorskins are already 25 or 28..don't want to go much wider than that
You can easily ride 70/80 psi with those tires. I weigh 200lbs + my heavy bike + commute gear and pump up to 60-80 on my 28mm tires, and yes I do commute on a ****ty stretch of road. Why dont you want to go any wider? 32mm tires arent going to slow you down.
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