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Old 01-15-13, 11:59 PM   #1
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Got $450 to drop on a new bike/build new bike.

I have $450 to spend on a new bike either parts or to build one. These are the bikes I have in mind. Kilo TT: http://bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/kilott.htm Kilo TT PRO:http://bikesdirect.com/products/merc...ott_pro_xi.htm PhantomCross: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm Dawes: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._al_carb_x.htm (Will this bike be better since its aluminum?)
Can someone explain the difference between the kilo tt and the kilo tt pro? So any suggestions?

Is it bad practice to get a white bike? I heard that white bikes often symbolize ghost bikes.
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All of those are good choices. Is this a commuter bike? If so, I'd go Phantom Cross... cause they're kinda awesome.

Nothing wrong with a white frame. It's a ghost bike if everything else on it is white also.
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All of those are good choices. Is this a commuter bike? If so, I'd go Phantom Cross... cause they're kinda awesome.

Nothing wrong with a white frame. It's a ghost bike if everything else on it is white also.
Yup it's going to be a commuter, any reason to get the Phantom Cross over the TT Pro which I am leaning towards?

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I am leaning towards it haha
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I would think the Phantom Cross has more comfortable geometry for longer rides (sure, that's subjective) and clearance for larger tires and fenders should you desire them at some point.
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i just bought a fantom cross for my commute and so far i love it. i specifically got it for its tire/fender clearance and rack mounts. in terms of frame geometry though, it's still basically a track frame
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if you don't want to use fat tires i think you should get the kilo. what is your "commute" like?

i've worked my way through 2 kilos and a khs flite 100 (same frame as kilo) and i still find myself wanting another one.
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just through and about campus, however I want to use it for city riding and just cycling for fun.
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where r u located?
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if you are commuting in a rural area id get the kilo WT if yr going for a BD bike
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if you are commuting in a rural area id get the kilo WT if yr going for a BD bike
what benefits does the WT have over the TT?
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what benefits does the WT have over the TT?
And what does this have to do with commuting in a rural area?
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The WT has room for wide tires and less twitchy geometry.

In a rural area, there may be more dirt roads/paths than in the city - which is why the wider tires and less twitchy geo would make more sense.
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so on the other side, what benefits does a TT have over a WT in general. Even though the area is rural there is alot of smooth pavement here.
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i think the TT will be more fun.

i went to school in central illinois, so it was pretty rural once you got off campus. fat tire bikes are fun, but in reality a place like that has a lot more smooth pavement riding opportunities than off road gravel/dirt paths.
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so on the other side, what benefits does a TT have over a WT in general.
None at all?
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Yup it's going to be a commuter, any reason to get the Phantom Cross over the TT Pro which I am leaning towards?


I am leaning towards it haha
Wider tires, room for fenders.
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I think the definition of "commuter" hasn't been established in this thread (or maybe the entire forum).

I commute on my Rush Hour, meaning sometimes I ride it to work and back home. By no means is it a typical "commuter bike" with racks for bags, panniers, fenders, etc.

It's only a commuter in the sense that I ride it to work. And when I ride it, it's only comfortable when I ride at a higher speed. If you're gonna be riding fast and you have some distance to ride, maybe the TT or Pro would be better. But if I'm riding a shorter distance at a more moderate pace, I like my Leader with wider tires and risers (which can still move when necessary).

I'd go with the bike that gives you the most options.
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In a rural area, there may be more dirt roads/paths than in the city - which is why the wider tires and less twitchy geo would make more sense.
Man, the wider tires and less twitchy geometry makes sense all over the place.
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Man, the wider tires and less twitchy geometry makes sense all over the place.
i think it depends what you want to use the bike for...
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Man, the wider tires and less twitchy geometry makes sense all over the place.
Looks like mihlbach's been eating Dick Flakes for breakfast again.

Not that it's even relevant anymore because the OP said there's plenty of smooth pavement where he lives but are you really saying you'd rather ride a bike with "track" geo and 23c tires than one with more relaxed geo and clearance for wider tires on gravel roads?

Of course you are.
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I think I'm going to go with the Mercier Kilo TT pro, thanks for the input guys! I thought about it again, commuting from class to class won't be most of the riding, riding with other riders is where most of the riding is going to take place, on the streets.
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If i get a kilo tt pro, what are some upgrades worth looking into?
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