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Old 01-17-13, 01:16 AM   #1
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2013 Bianchi Super Pista

Hey I'm new to the biking world and had a few questions.

Just recently I have became very interested in purchasing a pista concept but unfortunately they're hard to come by. So I've decided to consider the almost identical 2013 super pista.

I was told that this was a track bike as opposed to the concept which was more of a road bike, is this true? My intention was to use this as my road commuter, so ideally I don't think I would want a track bike.

Also is it worth it to put 1500+ into this aluminum bike? I was told that aluminum isn't very comfortable compared to steel and carbon. Does anyone have any experience on these newer model pistas that could give me some advice?

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Old 01-17-13, 01:23 AM   #2
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It's a track frame, alright.
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I was told that aluminum isn't very comfortable compared to steel and carbon.
That's bs. My CAAD smooths out more road buzz than my Leader and KHS. My CAAD is alu, my leader is steel, my KHS is carbon. I swear Cannondale used fairy majik or something when they made the CAAD. They got it right.
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That's bs. My CAAD smooths out more road buzz than my Leader and KHS. My CAAD is alu, my leader is steel, my KHS is carbon. I swear Cannondale used fairy majik or something when they made the CAAD. They got it right.
design and tube engineering make more of a difference than material, i have always said... but carbon has a wealth of properties that can be easily engineered to different characteristics, where steel has a large range that are fairly difficult to engineer and aluminum has a very small range of characteristics (far smaller than either of the other two) that are possible while making a bike that is light and durable.

i wouldn't call cannondales durable. they're great but my carbon raleigh is far nicer to ride than my caad4 was, though the caad4 was much nicer than any other aluminum bike i've had.

really the question here is 'what is a track bike' and anyone who thinks the concept is more of a road bike is a ninny.

the concept may have been a little more of a mass start bike than a sprint or pursuit bike, but the super pista isn't a keirin bike either. each are better suited to track use than road use, and if you're looking for longevity or comfort you shouldn't be looking at a track bike at all, though you'll likely prefer a mass start track geometry to something super steep or long. focus more on geometry and tube design than material. whether something is worth 1500 to you or not is not something anyone else can answer. it's worth it to me but then again if i had that kind of money it wouldn't go into a track bike, it would go into my car or my computer or my furniture, because i've already spent several times that on bikes.

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My intention was to use this as my road commuter, so ideally I don't think I would want a track bike.
In this case, you will probably want to look elsewhere. The Super Pista and Pista Concept are both track frames. "Pista" is Italian for "track" FYI, and track bikes are not built for comfortable commuting.
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I enjoy riding my super pista on the road.
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I was told that aluminum isn't very comfortable compared to steel.....
Its not that simple...you can build a rediculously stiff frame out of either material. Track bikes are built for stiffness without consideration for comfort. True, track bikes aren't optimal for road riding, but its not going to destroy the fun or anything. I can ride centuries on my aluminum track bike without any real discomfort.
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I had ridden track exclusively until 'convinced' by a female to join her team as support person
which meant yes, riding a bike with those pesky levers and cable thingies.
Done THOUSANDS of miles on my Eddy Merckx for the American Diabetes Association...

seau your comment on comfort.. invalid.
I have commuted on fixed gear 52 miles a day round trip for over two years.
Some more recent commutes half that distance are done but I have way too much fun
blowing off motorists on my road bike as they crawl along at sub 20 klick speeds..
'one' of the beauties of track frames is the ability to lengthen wheelbase.
Wheels are an important factor too.
You could replace the fork as well to accommodate a brake ( UGHHHH !!!!)
BRAKES ARE FOR FLAKES!!!!!!
on a track bike

So I say, go for it. Even if you freewheel
( sadness, whoever invented the flip flop hub BOO to you)

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I don't know if this makes my decision harder or easier. I only planned on commuting no more than 15-20 miles a day if that makes any difference. I planned on upgrading the wheelset and other components as well.
The main reason I liked it was for its look and previous reviews of the older models. Ideally I wanted to go with carbon fiber but I can't seem to find the one I'm looking for; either that or I can't differentiate between a quality carbon frame set and a cheap replica being sold on eBay. I guess another logical question would be can I find a quality carbon fiber frame for around a $1000 or a little under? (Preferably that looks like this super pista).

Thanks again for your help,
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Gan Well Pro Evasion that "looks" closest to the Pista Concept, but it's close to $1800.

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Not a bad looking bike but it seems that is only carbon coated. For that price I would prefer to get an all carbon bike. I think I'm gonna go with the super pista. It seems most riders that own it ride it on the street anyway. Plus the price is more in my budget.

Does anyone know what size would be best for me. I have 31.5 inseam and I'm 6' tall. I plan on getting a 59cm. My other road bike is 59cm and it seems to fit me well. Plus I'm not into the super high seat posts.

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An all black all carbon Dolan Seta for 400, doesn't get better than that
http://www.dolan-bikes.com/Track%20F...eta%20Frameset
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