In all honesty though, the Contender and the Undefeated look like sweet bikes.
They use 4130.
I doubt their demographic is checking welds, but I get what you're saying.
They do. They are more money wit brand components. Any bike at the $400 price point is a frame, fork, headset and bb to me as I would plan on upgrading the rest down the road. It's just cheaper and easier for me to buy complete then buy all the components separately up front and build it
Ive rode a vilano, big shot or pure fix(cant remember which), state and a kilo. Ill take a kilo every time, never really inspected them super close cause it was a friends/acquaintance bike but on the test ride, all three of them jjst felt real ****ty.
I want to test ride a kilo. Gotta see if the bf hype is valid. Anybody know a good lbs to test them out?