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Old 06-26-13, 05:37 PM   #76
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Uhhhh...I must of missed the memo where the kilo TT some how sets this bar that all other bike companies strive for. I'm sure the kilo is a good bike, but come on now.
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Hi, this is Mehdi Farsi, co-founder of State Bicycle Co.

Since establishing in 2009, we have made leaps and bounds in our product offerings, quality, and customer experience. We ship for free, offer free returns, and warranty all of our products. Our bikes have put riders on podiums at events such as The Wolfpack Hustle Crash and we've competed in international level events such as the Red Hook Crit.

We sometimes get "lumped in" with our competition due to our price point, but I can assure you State Bicycle Co. is head and shoulders better than the rest of the "entry level" fixed gear products. We use 4130 Chromoly rather than hi-tensile steel on our $429 bikes.

I have posted some 3rd party reviews for you to check out. Please let me know if you have any questions.

I have a question. Since this person has posted his concerns, I'd curious to know what you would do in order to address them? You say that you make leaps and bounds for quality and customer satisfaction and I'm sure you will go this route.

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I built one up a week ago. My first impression was that it was of higher quality than the sub $300 offerings on bikesdirect since the welding looked comparable to my girlfriend's Motobecane Track. While I still think the components are more presentable and polished looking on the State, the frame itself had some pretty bad flaws. First off, the dropouts weren't even. This, in addition to them giving you cheap axle nuts without rotating washers that didn't exactly spin smoothly onto the axles, made tensioning such a time consuming, low quality experience. No wonder they come with free chain tensioners, but they are useless once you add a couple of teeth on your cog or chainring - as in my case - unless you add more chain links. The wellgo pedals didn't spin on their own at all, making strapping in bothersome. Also, the headset was definitely bottom of the barrel, but it's not as noticeable while riding. I wouldn't recommend someone to not buy State Bikes if they're going for a very specific look for cheap, but I really feel like they cut some corners on their product.

TLDR; They're aight, but overpriced for what they are.
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200 miles total or in one trip?
Longest trip I've done is 55 miles. 200 is total miles on the Great Britain.
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I get it now. State is now a sponsor of BikeForums so I'm sure we'll all be putting up with a little "hype" for a while.
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I get it now. State is now a sponsor of BikeForums so I'm sure we'll all be putting up with a little "hype" for a while.
Oh, that's why their banner keeps popping up on every page. I thought it was just the Google internet conspiracy personally directed marketing.
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ot: just noticed that the tt pro features a 26.8 seatpost and 1" threadless headset.....guess those aren't deal breakers it just seems a bit odd.
What the hell are "trackspec" hubs.....?
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Scrod and I don't get all that popup ad nonsense, cuz we are elite members of zee forumz.
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ot: just noticed that the tt pro features a 26.8 seatpost and 1" threadless headset.....guess those aren't deal breakers it just seems a bit odd.
What the hell are "trackspec" hubs.....?
Yeah, the 26.8mm seatpost is kinda rare and limits your choices if you want to change. All their other models are the most common size for steel frames, which is 27.2mm. The 1" threadless is a throwback to ancient times when they used threaded headsets and quill stems. The trackspec is just bs. They are plain old loose ball bearing hubs that need maintenance and adjustment. The upscale Kilo TT Pro has much better hubs with cartridge sealed bearings.
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Yeah, the 26.8mm seatpost is kinda rare and limits your choices if you want to change. All their other models are the most common size for steel frames, which is 27.2mm. The 1" threadless is a throwback to ancient times when they used threaded headsets and quill stems. The trackspec is just bs. They are plain old loose ball bearing hubs that need maintenance and adjustment. The upscale Kilo TT Pro has much better hubs with cartridge sealed bearings.
those specs were pulled from a kilo tt pro direct from the bd site....
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those specs were pulled from a kilo tt pro direct from the bd site....
I thought you were referring to the standard Kilo TT, where they also use the TrackSpec wording. It is still bs. The hubs are cartridge sealed bearing Formulas on the Kilo TT Pro. That's all that really matters.
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As fond as I'm not of Bikes Direct, I'd s rather buy and ride a Kilo than any State bike.
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Oh good gawd. Scrod. I'm waiting for answers and you guys are junking this place up.
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What answers ? To the OP ? You'll find plenty of answers on page 1 of this thread.
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Properly built wheels should never need any re-truing no matter how many miles you put on them. Since most stock wheels are not properly tensioned or stressed from the factory, then it's up to the bike shop that assembles it to take care of this before they deliver the bike. If you buy it online, then you either take it to a competent lbs or do it yourself. If you do itself and you keep having to re-true the wheels, then you don't know what you are doing and need to take it a bike shop mechanic.
For the record I assembled the bike out of the box..put grease on the threads...etc. etc. etc. I just mounted the wheels honestly right out of the box and started riding. Did 20 miles...they came out of true of course...so I trued them after lubing the nips. Instead of stressing the spokes by hand however...I just ride the bike again. It did come out of true, so I true them again. After that 2nd time the wheels have stayed true since putting 100 miles more on it, which includes hitting some nasty bumps and jumping some curbs...things that you would only dream of doing on double butted frames or your ridiculously light wabi which I am jelly of. Just sayin.
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Wow, awesome thread. TL;DR- States and Kilos are both exactly what you pay for.
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How is this thread not about food yet? I ate a boatload of peanuts yesterday and got a tummy ache.
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No joke, I tried spam sushi today (yesterday) and it was awful. The thought of it has kept me awake.
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I have a feeleing that a lot of n00bs want a state, purefix...etc. because they think the Kilo is just too common and they want to stand out from the crowd on something "different"


and then they get bummed when they come here for confirmation that they have made the right decision only to find out they didn't.
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I have a feeleing that a lot of n00bs want a state, purefix...etc. because they think the Kilo is just too common and they want to stand out from the crowd on something "different"


and then they get bummed when they come here for confirmation that they have made the right decision only to find out they didn't.
Nope, and nope.
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No joke, I tried spam sushi today (yesterday) and it was awful. The thought of it has kept me awake.
At least spam is cooked. Raw pork would really give me nightmares.
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I have a question. Since this person has posted his concerns, I'd curious to know what you would do in order to address them? You say that you make leaps and bounds for quality and customer satisfaction and I'm sure you will go this route.
Things like this are few and far between, I would also be curious as to when the bike was purchased. We have upgraded our headsets since we started doing business. Misaligned drop outs could be an issue with shipping but if that is ever the case we will GLADLY replace the frame FREE of charge.

This is the first I have heard of an issue with the Wellgo pedals. Wellgo is a 3rd party and we've generally had success with them.
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