Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-27-13, 12:03 PM   #126
TejanoTrackie 
Veteran Racer
 
TejanoTrackie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
Bikes: 29 frames + 73 wheels
Posts: 10,262
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
Then who designs the frames? Mercier does not design the frame or did they buyout the designs and the name?
Mercier Kilo TT = KHS Flite 100

Mercier Kilo WT = Surly Steamroller (dimensions only)
__________________
What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel, but the tunnel keeps getting longer - me
TejanoTrackie is online now  
Old 06-27-13, 12:03 PM   #127
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,978
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjfarsi View Post
I tried messaging them, but I don't have 50 posts so I am unable to use that feature.

If someone wants to past on the info here is what it said:

Hello,

My name is Mehdi Farsi, co-founder of State Bicycle Co.

I understand you had some issues regarding your frame. Please contact admin@statebicycle.com and we can replace the frame if you would like.

We stand behind our product and we will do whatever it takes to make sure you are satisfied with your purchase.

Best regards & ride safe.


Click on this http://www.bikeforums.net/member.php...raining-Wheels And from there is his visitor message which you can post on. Perhaps a direct phone number might be more expedient than an email?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 12:26 PM   #128
JeremyLC
Senior Member
 
JeremyLC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Arlington, TX
Bikes: 2008 Surly Cross Check, 2010 Fuji Track Comp
Posts: 985
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Mercier is a now defunct brand, just like Dawes and Motobecane. Their labels are all meaningless on the bikes sold today. BD has simply purchased the rights to those brands, and sells generic rebranded bikes under well-known names.

edit- TT fast
This Dawes is not that Dawes , however.
JeremyLC is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 12:31 PM   #129
mjfarsi
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 15
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
Click on this http://www.bikeforums.net/member.php...raining-Wheels And from there is his visitor message which you can post on. Perhaps a direct phone number might be more expedient than an email?

Thanks! Done.
mjfarsi is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 12:34 PM   #130
Siu Blue Wind
Flowers for mom
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 10,978
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjfarsi View Post
Thanks! Done.
Awesome! Can't wait to hear the outcome of this.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buddha
We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Quote:
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 12:40 PM   #131
Scrodzilla
There goes Tokyo
 
Scrodzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: EAI Bare Knuckle, 1975 Raleigh Pro Track
Posts: 26,629
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
Mercier, one of their brands actually is renound and has been around since the 70s. I googled them recently. BD is an online dealer kind of like citygrounds from my understanding. Mercier is just a bicycle brand they sell. They do not open the box because they are a online dealer only.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
Then who designs the frames? Mercier does not design the frame or did they buyout the designs and the name?
Congrats. You really are as clueless as you seem.
__________________
Scrodzilla is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 01:03 PM   #132
Wut
Senior Member
 
Wut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 112
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Scrodzilla;15789778]Congrats. You really are as clueless as you seem.
No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
Wut is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 01:15 PM   #133
seanifred
Senior Member
 
seanifred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bay Area/Davis, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 395
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
on paper it's actually genius. buy names and sell it. by buying older names, they've made a name for themselves. interesting idea, really.
seanifred is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 01:40 PM   #134
Training.Wheels
Cool Guy
 
Training.Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: San Jose, CA
Bikes: Jamis Sputnik, Leader 722 Heritage Edition, Brompton, Bianchi Via Nirone, Robinson SST, Diamondback Sorrento
Posts: 798
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Hey! Thanks for the bringing up the issue, Siu. I think I had that impression with the headset because apparently they forgot to clean the insides before putting it together, so when I received it, it turned with a very loud CRUNCH. Further investigation revealed that it had a lot of sandy grit in it. I put a picture of it in the "Today I" thread several days ago. I had to clean it out myself. Since that happened, I may be just extra biased as to its quality. Also, the pedals have since been replaced. It would be unfair to blame State for that since it's made by Wellgo. And the dropouts do look more like a quality issue; the right dropout was a bit wider than the left so it was a bit more challenge to tension, but not impossible. I'm sure this could be fixed easily with another tensioner; the other one became obsolete after going from 16 to 19 teeth. All in all, it's my little brother's bike, and he's happy with it because he's not aware of what I had to go through, so it's nothing I can't handle for him.
Training.Wheels is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 01:45 PM   #135
Scrodzilla
There goes Tokyo
 
Scrodzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: EAI Bare Knuckle, 1975 Raleigh Pro Track
Posts: 26,629
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
No its just that...
Yes, you're clueless.
__________________
Scrodzilla is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 06:49 PM   #136
jlafitte 
Pirate/Smuggler
 
jlafitte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: New Orleans
Bikes:
Posts: 1,136
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
Wow. And Chevy, Cadillac, Pontiac, Buick etc should all just be renamed General Motors. Budweiser, Becks, Rolling Rock, Leffe, Michelob, Hoegaarden should all be renamed Anheuser-Busch. You probably don't have a future in marketing.
jlafitte is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 07:08 PM   #137
Wut
Senior Member
 
Wut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 112
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanifred View Post
on paper it's actually genius. buy names and sell it. by buying older names, they've made a name for themselves. interesting idea, really.
It is about as interesting as slapping a porsche emblem on a honda civic, or a fiero with a ferrari body kit.
Wut is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 07:20 PM   #138
Scrodzilla
There goes Tokyo
 
Scrodzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: EAI Bare Knuckle, 1975 Raleigh Pro Track
Posts: 26,629
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Dude, just stop.
__________________
Scrodzilla is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 07:51 PM   #139
seanifred
Senior Member
 
seanifred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Bay Area/Davis, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 395
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Dude, just stop.
this quote and your avatar just made my day
seanifred is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 08:12 PM   #140
solipsist716
Magnets, how do they work
 
solipsist716's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Buffalo
Bikes:
Posts: 1,308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
Cause the "bikesdirect kilo tt" has a great ****ing ring to it.

c'mon dude. I know you've got a brain in there, use it to think more good about stuff. BD makes millions in revenue by selling bikes at wholesale cost, capitalizing on the kind of people who go to their lbs and get sticker shock (read: an assload of people, seriously).

TL;DR you get what you pay for.
solipsist716 is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 08:57 PM   #141
Wut
Senior Member
 
Wut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 112
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by solipsist716 View Post
Cause the "bikesdirect kilo tt" has a great ****ing ring to it.

c'mon dude. I know you've got a brain in there, use it to think more good about stuff. BD makes millions in revenue by selling bikes at wholesale cost, capitalizing on the kind of people who go to their lbs and get sticker shock (read: an assload of people, seriously).

TL;DR you get what you pay for.
I just have more respect for companies that design their own stuff and put their own name behind it. That does not make me bad. I am not judging them on profitability, as they obviously appeal to bargain shoppers...kind of like walmart. I do not think the BD model is that successful or big companies like specialized, trek, etc. would seize to exist. To each their own though. BD and state co.are great...yay.../thread. I dont really care what people ride so long as they ride...peace, love, and all that gushy stuff.
Wut is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 09:16 PM   #142
Dannihilator
User Title
 
Dannihilator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Annandale, New Jersey
Bikes: 2014 Surly Steamroller, 1989 Nishiki Altron
Posts: 19,422
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
I just have more respect for companies that design their own stuff and put their own name behind it. That does not make me bad. I am not judging them on profitability, as they obviously appeal to bargain shoppers...kind of like walmart. I do not think the BD model is that successful or big companies like specialized, trek, etc. would seize to exist. To each their own though. BD and state co.are great...yay.../thread. I dont really care what people ride so long as they ride...peace, love, and all that gushy stuff.
Outside of custom makers, there are only a handful of companies that build bike frames. Most notable:

Some of those companies are:
Giant
Kinesis
Merida
Ideal
Hodaka
Dannihilator is offline  
Old 06-27-13, 10:57 PM   #143
seau grateau
Senior Member
 
seau grateau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: LA
Bikes: Shogun Selectra, Dolan Pre Cursa, Ridley Fenix AL
Posts: 7,124
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 186 Post(s)
I love this thread.
seau grateau is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 12:15 AM   #144
rms13
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 6,191
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 102 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
I love this thread.
Your welcome
rms13 is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 02:39 AM   #145
Wut
Senior Member
 
Wut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Bikes:
Posts: 112
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Big bikesdirect ad on this forum...it all makes sense lol.
Wut is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 04:11 AM   #146
europa
Grumpy Old Bugga
 
europa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
Bikes: Europa, Hillbrick, Road Chief, Repco Superlite (Ol' Rusty)
Posts: 3,328
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
How about we lay off the bloke from State Cycles. It takes guts to set up and run a business and providing the product is appropriate to the price and claims, coupled with half decent after sales service, he doesn't deserve the **** he's copped here. People who imagine that if you to on the internet you deserve to get slagged only understand the less useful sections of the internet, it's not cool or robust, it's just rude.

As for his bikes - I've never seen one and am not likely to. There's obviously a market in that price range but it astounds me what you people expect for buggerall money. If you want something decent, PAY FOR IT. There's a mindset on this forum that you should get front line quality for the price of a crushed coke can and a mangled *** end. FFS, wake up to yourselves, you just sound spoiled.

Wut, I can only assume you like the notoriety. Keep baiting the wolves and they'll keep biting - mind you, it's good entertainment
One point though, 200 miles on a bike doesn't equate to good experience, at that distance, you don't even have the set up sorted (assuming you've been trying).

Now, if anyone doesn't feel insulted, tttttttthhhhhhhbbbbbbpppppp (that's a big raspberry, just so you don't feel left out).
europa is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 06:15 AM   #147
solipsist716
Magnets, how do they work
 
solipsist716's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Buffalo
Bikes:
Posts: 1,308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
Big bikesdirect ad on this forum...it all makes sense lol.
Not a single person here gives less of a **** about BD's profit margins. Get off your spoon lol an ha TT?
solipsist716 is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 07:02 AM   #148
Scrodzilla
There goes Tokyo
 
Scrodzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: EAI Bare Knuckle, 1975 Raleigh Pro Track
Posts: 26,629
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
I just have more respect for companies that design their own stuff and put their own name behind it. That does not make me bad.
For the record, your Charge Plug wasn't made by Charge in their own UK factory by an old British guy with a tig welder. It's a cookie-cutter frame made in a Chinese or Taiwanese facility that produces frames for several of companies who slap their branding on them. There is absolutely no difference between Bikes Direct buying a bunch of frames from a factory and putting Mercier or Dawes logos on them and Charge buying a bunch of frames (possibly from the very same factory) and slapping their logo on them. That's how the vast majority of the bike business works so get over it and yourself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wut View Post
Big bikesdirect ad on this forum...it all makes sense lol.
In case you hadn't noticed, the only one carrying on about BD in this thread is you.
__________________

Last edited by Scrodzilla; 06-28-13 at 10:30 AM.
Scrodzilla is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 07:28 AM   #149
GENESTARWIND
Senior Member
 
GENESTARWIND's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: las vegas
Bikes: pake rum runner
Posts: 1,883
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Wow
GENESTARWIND is offline  
Old 06-28-13, 07:41 AM   #150
Jared.
Uninformed Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Union County, NJ
Bikes:
Posts: 1,104
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by europa View Post
How about we lay off the bloke from State Cycles.
The company seems to be improving their product over time. They are offering higher quality products as they develop into a bigger(?) company. They stand behind their products with their customer service. They are active in many cycling communities across the country (I see them sponsoring a large number of events and alley cats to varying degrees).

Seems like they are growing and proceeding as most start ups do. Hope they can continue to be successful, which will translate to a more robust company that can offer its customers more choices.

Seems like they've gotten a little more flak than deserved.
Jared. is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:06 PM.