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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    Then who designs the frames? Mercier does not design the frame or did they buyout the designs and the name?
    Mercier Kilo TT = KHS Flite 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjfarsi View Post
    I tried messaging them, but I don't have 50 posts so I am unable to use that feature.

    If someone wants to past on the info here is what it said:

    Hello,

    My name is Mehdi Farsi, co-founder of State Bicycle Co.

    I understand you had some issues regarding your frame. Please contact admin@statebicycle.com and we can replace the frame if you would like.

    We stand behind our product and we will do whatever it takes to make sure you are satisfied with your purchase.

    Best regards & ride safe.


    Click on this http://www.bikeforums.net/member.php...raining-Wheels And from there is his visitor message which you can post on. Perhaps a direct phone number might be more expedient than an email?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
    Mercier is a now defunct brand, just like Dawes and Motobecane. Their labels are all meaningless on the bikes sold today. BD has simply purchased the rights to those brands, and sells generic rebranded bikes under well-known names.

    edit- TT fast
    This Dawes is not that Dawes , however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind View Post
    Click on this http://www.bikeforums.net/member.php...raining-Wheels And from there is his visitor message which you can post on. Perhaps a direct phone number might be more expedient than an email?

    Thanks! Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjfarsi View Post
    Thanks! Done.
    Awesome! Can't wait to hear the outcome of this.
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    Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    Mercier, one of their brands actually is renound and has been around since the 70s. I googled them recently. BD is an online dealer kind of like citygrounds from my understanding. Mercier is just a bicycle brand they sell. They do not open the box because they are a online dealer only.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    Then who designs the frames? Mercier does not design the frame or did they buyout the designs and the name?
    Congrats. You really are as clueless as you seem.

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    Scrodzilla;15789778]Congrats. You really are as clueless as you seem.
    No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
    on paper it's actually genius. buy names and sell it. by buying older names, they've made a name for themselves. interesting idea, really.
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    Hey! Thanks for the bringing up the issue, Siu. I think I had that impression with the headset because apparently they forgot to clean the insides before putting it together, so when I received it, it turned with a very loud CRUNCH. Further investigation revealed that it had a lot of sandy grit in it. I put a picture of it in the "Today I" thread several days ago. I had to clean it out myself. Since that happened, I may be just extra biased as to its quality. Also, the pedals have since been replaced. It would be unfair to blame State for that since it's made by Wellgo. And the dropouts do look more like a quality issue; the right dropout was a bit wider than the left so it was a bit more challenge to tension, but not impossible. I'm sure this could be fixed easily with another tensioner; the other one became obsolete after going from 16 to 19 teeth. All in all, it's my little brother's bike, and he's happy with it because he's not aware of what I had to go through, so it's nothing I can't handle for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    No its just that...
    Yes, you're clueless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
    Wow. And Chevy, Cadillac, Pontiac, Buick etc should all just be renamed General Motors. Budweiser, Becks, Rolling Rock, Leffe, Michelob, Hoegaarden should all be renamed Anheuser-Busch. You probably don't have a future in marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanifred View Post
    on paper it's actually genius. buy names and sell it. by buying older names, they've made a name for themselves. interesting idea, really.
    It is about as interesting as slapping a porsche emblem on a honda civic, or a fiero with a ferrari body kit.

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    Dude, just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Dude, just stop.
    this quote and your avatar just made my day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    No its just that the whole bikesdirect business model is confusing and kind of lame. Just put bikesdirect on your frames and end the confusion. Why buy an older name and slap it on a frame? Not to say their bikes are bad but their business model sucks.
    Cause the "bikesdirect kilo tt" has a great ****ing ring to it.

    c'mon dude. I know you've got a brain in there, use it to think more good about stuff. BD makes millions in revenue by selling bikes at wholesale cost, capitalizing on the kind of people who go to their lbs and get sticker shock (read: an assload of people, seriously).

    TL;DR you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solipsist716 View Post
    Cause the "bikesdirect kilo tt" has a great ****ing ring to it.

    c'mon dude. I know you've got a brain in there, use it to think more good about stuff. BD makes millions in revenue by selling bikes at wholesale cost, capitalizing on the kind of people who go to their lbs and get sticker shock (read: an assload of people, seriously).

    TL;DR you get what you pay for.
    I just have more respect for companies that design their own stuff and put their own name behind it. That does not make me bad. I am not judging them on profitability, as they obviously appeal to bargain shoppers...kind of like walmart. I do not think the BD model is that successful or big companies like specialized, trek, etc. would seize to exist. To each their own though. BD and state co.are great...yay.../thread. I dont really care what people ride so long as they ride...peace, love, and all that gushy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    I just have more respect for companies that design their own stuff and put their own name behind it. That does not make me bad. I am not judging them on profitability, as they obviously appeal to bargain shoppers...kind of like walmart. I do not think the BD model is that successful or big companies like specialized, trek, etc. would seize to exist. To each their own though. BD and state co.are great...yay.../thread. I dont really care what people ride so long as they ride...peace, love, and all that gushy stuff.
    Outside of custom makers, there are only a handful of companies that build bike frames. Most notable:

    Some of those companies are:
    Giant
    Kinesis
    Merida
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    Strike like an eagle and sacrifice the dove.
    Words and Stuff.

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    I love this thread.
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    thanckx.
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    I love this thread.
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    Big bikesdirect ad on this forum...it all makes sense lol.

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    How about we lay off the bloke from State Cycles. It takes guts to set up and run a business and providing the product is appropriate to the price and claims, coupled with half decent after sales service, he doesn't deserve the **** he's copped here. People who imagine that if you to on the internet you deserve to get slagged only understand the less useful sections of the internet, it's not cool or robust, it's just rude.

    As for his bikes - I've never seen one and am not likely to. There's obviously a market in that price range but it astounds me what you people expect for buggerall money. If you want something decent, PAY FOR IT. There's a mindset on this forum that you should get front line quality for the price of a crushed coke can and a mangled *** end. FFS, wake up to yourselves, you just sound spoiled.

    Wut, I can only assume you like the notoriety. Keep baiting the wolves and they'll keep biting - mind you, it's good entertainment
    One point though, 200 miles on a bike doesn't equate to good experience, at that distance, you don't even have the set up sorted (assuming you've been trying).

    Now, if anyone doesn't feel insulted, tttttttthhhhhhhbbbbbbpppppp (that's a big raspberry, just so you don't feel left out).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    Big bikesdirect ad on this forum...it all makes sense lol.
    Not a single person here gives less of a **** about BD's profit margins. Get off your spoon lol an ha TT?
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    As Minchin said, praying before a sporting event and winning does not mean that god took time out from torturing and killing babies in Africa to ensure your team's win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    I just have more respect for companies that design their own stuff and put their own name behind it. That does not make me bad.
    For the record, your Charge Plug wasn't made by Charge in their own UK factory by an old British guy with a tig welder. It's a cookie-cutter frame made in a Chinese or Taiwanese facility that produces frames for several of companies who slap their branding on them. There is absolutely no difference between Bikes Direct buying a bunch of frames from a factory and putting Mercier or Dawes logos on them and Charge buying a bunch of frames (possibly from the very same factory) and slapping their logo on them. That's how the vast majority of the bike business works so get over it and yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wut View Post
    Big bikesdirect ad on this forum...it all makes sense lol.
    In case you hadn't noticed, the only one carrying on about BD in this thread is you.
    Last edited by Scrodzilla; 06-28-13 at 10:30 AM.

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    Wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by europa View Post
    How about we lay off the bloke from State Cycles.
    The company seems to be improving their product over time. They are offering higher quality products as they develop into a bigger(?) company. They stand behind their products with their customer service. They are active in many cycling communities across the country (I see them sponsoring a large number of events and alley cats to varying degrees).

    Seems like they are growing and proceeding as most start ups do. Hope they can continue to be successful, which will translate to a more robust company that can offer its customers more choices.

    Seems like they've gotten a little more flak than deserved.

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