Scrodzilla

I have one tucked away in a time capsule as we speak. I'll let you ride it in fifteen years.

Nagrom_

Kilo tt pro.

Training.Wheels

The $399 Kilo TT with chrome ends has a Truvativ crankset, Kenda tires and the one my friend got came with two Tektro Brakes.

Wut

Stop shilling the kilo tt....

But....

Kilo TT Pro / thread.

Sorry had to do it once.

Seriously at the 400 price point these things are pretty much the same unless the components are puzzling or the geo is off the wall.

TejanoTrackie 

Made in Taiwan =/= Made in China

Scrodzilla

Just out of sheer curiosity, what do you ride?

TejanoTrackie 

Actually, the question you should ask is wut do you ride.

Anyway, isn't it like a Charge Plug ?

Scrodzilla

Oh yeah, that's right. Great Britain's version of the Kilo TT.

The Kilo UK, if you will.

Wut

Well there is a lot of controversey especially in the carbon world about that. But I am sure the Chinese can produce a good quality bike frame. Look at your phones and other gadgets people...where are they made? A walmart bike for example made in taiwan does not make it great.

TejanoTrackie 

Except w/o the defective forks.

Scrodzilla

Bikes and electronics are two totally different things and someone needs to know what they're talking about before posting.

Training.Wheels

From experience, not true. You have to consider build quality, as well as finish. The Kilo TT excels at both in the 400 price point.

rms13

I remember years ago when nobody would ever consider buying anything that was made in Taiwan because that meant it was junk. I can even remember when I was a kid and my parents were skeptical of anything that was made in Japan because it was junk. A couple of years ago I was in a factory in Thailand that manufactured boxing equipment and clothes and the people that worked there put more time and care into what they were producing then I could imagine any American workers making minimum wage would...but of course if it was made in America it would be made by machines not by people. I'm sure 99% of the electronics and appliances I have in my home were made in China as well as all of my clothes, luggage, backpacks, camping equipment etc and it's all been working out for me. So place of origin is the least important thing to me when it comes to choosing a bike to buy.

Scrodzilla

Come on, people. You're on the internet, do a little research.

The main problem with bikes made in China is that the factories have much lower standards regarding overall quality and quality control than those in Japan (which has very high standards) or Taiwan.

TejanoTrackie 

My reply was in regard to bicycle frames, which is a totally different animal. I can tell you from my professional experience that the Chinese lag badly behind in certain areas such as metallurgy and welding. There is a restriction in the USA that pipe flanges made in China may not be used in US nuclear power plants, because they are prone to failure.

Wut

Kilo TT or Kilo TT Pro? Kilo TT is $399, Kilo TT Pro is $449. Looks like the kilo tt pro uses brand name components so worth the extra $50. The chrome accents do look nice.

Training.Wheels

Regular Kilo TT. For some reason, this version is not on the main page, but it's on the track bikes page, so it's a bit harder to find:
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...rome_paint.htm

TejanoTrackie 

Much better cranks (Sugino RD2) and wheel hubs are Formula with maintenance free sealed cartridge bearings instead of loose bearings that require service and adjustment. Those two differences alone are worth more than $50. The chrome is nice because you don't have to worry about the paint on the dropouts getting torn up by the wheel axle nuts.

Wut

I've read numerous threads on the ebay chinese carbon frames, and there seem to be a lot of people like them and think they are high quality. I think the problem is that a lot of the bikes that come from China are probably all the department store bikes, like WalMart, Sears, etc. that sell these things for $150 to $200 bucks. What I'm saying is that if someone designed a good quality frame, and had it manufactured in China...I wouldn't say it would be junk just because it's made in China.

TejanoTrackie 

Except that nobody does.

Wut

Uhhhh...I must of missed the memo where the kilo TT some how sets this bar that all other bike companies strive for. I'm sure the kilo is a good bike, but come on now. You'll be happy to know my GB has gone 200 miles and all it needed so far was some wheel truing. Oh and I like my stock saddle too

Huffandstuff

200 miles total or in one trip?

TejanoTrackie 

Properly built wheels should never need any re-truing no matter how many miles you put on them. Since most stock wheels are not properly tensioned or stressed from the factory, then it's up to the bike shop that assembles it to take care of this before they deliver the bike. If you buy it online, then you either take it to a competent lbs or do it yourself. If you do itself and you keep having to re-true the wheels, then you don't know what you are doing and need to take it a bike shop mechanic.

hairnet

Ok. Lets just all stop buying nice things.

no1mad 

Moved from SSFG.