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bikergirl101 07-19-13 12:20 PM

Can I replace my front gear for a smaller one?
 
I'm still pretty new to riding a bike, so please bear with my lack of technical knowledge (but with the expertise here I'm learning very quickly).

I recently purchased a single speed bike (just a super cheap one) and I want a smaller chainring. The bike rides fine without any cargo, but I use it to run errands with my son (so once I get his 30 lbs and groceries it's a very difficult ride). Can I change out the chainring for a smaller one? Where would I find the parts I need?

Additionally, this bike has coaster breaks. I do like them, but is it possible to install a front cable break as a fail-safe (I worry what will happen if my chain breaks or if I need to break for an emergency)?

Thanks for the help!

seau grateau 07-19-13 12:26 PM

Can you post some pictures of the parts in question?

prooftheory 07-19-13 12:31 PM

If you could change the sprocket on the rear to a larger one, this would probably be cheaper than changing the chainring. Look here. As far as adding brakes, does your fork have a hole drilled in it for a brake?

sup?

TejanoTrackie 07-19-13 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by prooftheory (Post 15867876)
If you could change the sprocket on the rear to a larger one, this would probably be cheaper than changing the chainring. Look here.

The OP said "super cheap", so the chainring is probably part of the crank and not removable anyway. Also, the chain will probably need to be lengthened if a larger cog is installed.

prooftheory 07-19-13 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 15867896)
The OP said "super cheap", so the chainring is probably part of the crank and not removable anyway. Also, the chain will probably need to be lengthened if a larger cog is installed.

yuck. In that case the answer is Kilo TT.

seau grateau 07-19-13 12:42 PM

The answer is never Kilo TT. It's not lupus.

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 15867896)
The OP said "super cheap", so the chainring is probably part of the crank and not removable anyway. Also, the chain will probably need to be lengthened if a larger cog is installed.

Yeaeeeeah

bikergirl101 07-19-13 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by prooftheory (Post 15867876)
If you could change the sprocket on the rear to a larger one, this would probably be cheaper than changing the chainring. Look here. As far as adding brakes, does your fork have a hole drilled in it for a brake?

sup?

The fork does not have a hole drilled in it for a break. Is it possible to work around this....maybe with zip ties or rubber cement?

As for the chainring, I'm getting from the comments here that I need to take a look to make sure these parts are removable before purchasing anything. I'm very comfortable with putting a longer chain on (about a month ago I purchased a $30 Craigslist bike to practice on so I could become comfortable with basic bike maintenance without fear of breaking a more expensive bike).

I've also calculated that I want about a 2.23-2.78 gear ratio. Just to make sure, two larger gears perform the same as two smaller gears if they have the same gear ratio....right?

prooftheory 07-19-13 01:56 PM

I would seriously recommend getting a new bike. Is there some reason you are attached to the one(s) you have?

Your understanding of gear ratios is pretty good. I'll send you back to Sheldon for a gear calculator.

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by bikergirl101 (Post 15868118)

1)The fork does not have a hole drilled in it for a break. Is it possible to work around this....maybe with zip ties or rubber cement?

2)As for the chainring, I'm getting from the comments here that I need to take a look to make sure these parts are removable before purchasing anything. I'm very comfortable with putting a longer chain on (about a month ago I purchased a $30 Craigslist bike to practice on so I could become comfortable with basic bike maintenance without fear of breaking a more expensive bike).

3)I've also calculated that I want about a 2.23-2.78 gear ratio. Just to make sure, two larger gears perform the same as two smaller gears if they have the same gear ratio....right?

1) A drill would probably work better.

2) what peeps are referring to is a "one piece crank", which is different than a "3 piece". On a 3 piece, chain rings are easily replaceable. On a one piece they are not.

3) seems way too high. What gears and what tire size?

4) go to the local bike shop

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by prooftheory (Post 15868138)
I would seriously recommend getting a new bike. Is there some reason you are attached to the one(s) you have?

option 2. Forget about the front break and start working those legs. You're new, they will get vastly stronger, quickly.

bikergirl101 07-19-13 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by prooftheory (Post 15868138)
I would seriously recommend getting a new bike. Is there some reason you are attached to the one(s) you have?

I love the color (it's a super bright orange making it almost impossible to miss me), the seat, the tires, the handle bars....everything. The only thing I don't like about it is the gear ratio. I could probably get all of those things in a much more expensive bike, but I just don't want to drop that much $$$ on a bike....first we living in an apartment so the bike is stored outside 24/7....second bikes here are stolen all the time....third it takes the fun out of it for me since it then becomes a major expense.

To bones_mcbones , I calculated that ratio off of the Craigslist bike (which was a mountain bike with the same size wheels: 26"). I found my favorite gear on that bike and drove around in it for a few days just to make sure. I know it's kind of an odd ratio, it's just the gear that worked the best for my riding (generally flat with small hills and LOTS of cargo). With the current gear ratio on the single-speed bike my knees are getting killed.

dudeyagnarbro 07-19-13 02:24 PM

Can you post an actual photo of the bike?

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by bikergirl101 (Post 15868180)
I love the color (it's a super bright orange making it almost impossible to miss me), the seat, the tires, the handle bars....everything. The only thing I don't like about it is the gear ratio. I could probably get all of those things in a much more expensive bike, but I just don't want to drop that much $$$ on a bike....first we living in an apartment so the bike is stored outside 24/7....second bikes here are stolen all the time....third it takes the fun out of it for me since it then becomes a major expense.

To bones_mcbones , I calculated that ratio off of the Craigslist bike (which was a mountain bike with the same size wheels: 26"). I found my favorite gear on that bike and drove around in it for a few days just to make sure. I know it's kind of an odd ratio, it's just the gear that worked the best for my riding (generally flat with small hills and LOTS of cargo). With the current gear ratio on the single-speed bike my knees are getting killed.

How many teeth on the rear cog? How many teeth are you planning on for the front chain ring?

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 02:41 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_gearing#Examples

TejanoTrackie 07-19-13 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bones_mcbones (Post 15868140)
what peeps are referring to is a "one piece crank", which is different than a "3 piece". On a 3 piece, chain rings are easily replaceable. On a one piece they are not.

Incorrect. A 1-piece crank (aka Ashtabula) has the right crank, spindle axle and left crank made as a single piece. A 3-piece crank is simply one with a separate right crankarm, a spindle axle and a left crankarm. The chainring may or may not be removable. For example, the chainring on my SE Draft Coaster is attached to the right crankarm and is not removable or replaceable. It is, nonetheless a 3-piece crank.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=330016

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 15868305)
Incorrect. A 1-piece crank (aka Ashtabula) has the right crank, spindle axle and left crank made as a single piece. A 3-piece crank is simply one with a separate right crankarm, a spindle axle and a left crankarm. The chainring may or may not be removable. For example, the chainring on my SE Draft Coaster is attached to the right crankarm and is not removable or replaceable. It is, nonetheless a 3-piece crank.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=330016

and a crank set/bb/chain ring is referred to as what?

TejanoTrackie 07-19-13 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by bones_mcbones (Post 15868327)
and a crank set/bb/chain ring is referred to as what?


Read this >>> http://sheldonbrown.com/opc.html

and this >>> http://sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ta-o.html Look up "Three-piece cranks" about half way down page

bones_mcbones 07-19-13 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 15868350)

I don't read on Fridays.

DiegoFrogs 07-19-13 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by bones_mcbones (Post 15868149)
option 2. Forget about the front break and start working those legs. You're new, they will get vastly stronger, quickly.

She's carrying precious human cargo and wants to have good, redundant brakes. Have you seen a coaster brake on a cheap bike?

You might want to consider not writing on Fridays, either.

LesterOfPuppets 07-19-13 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by bones_mcbones (Post 15868327)
and a crank set/bb/chain ring is referred to as what?

Generally, the 3 pieces of a 3 piece crank are left crank arm, right crank arm, bottom bracket spindle.

The most typical style of replaceable chainwheel for one piece cranks have a hole which correlates to a pin/bolt on the crank, as seen below the "36" here:

https://images.danscomp.com/images/p...7068_Black.gif

And as previously mentioned there are some 3-piece cranksets with non-replaceable chainrings. The absolute worst have chainrings swaged to the crank - uggh.

seau grateau 07-20-13 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by DiegoFrogs (Post 15868583)
You might want to consider not writing on Fridays, either.


Seriously, OP. Pics or you can't get actual advice.

bones_mcbones 07-21-13 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by DiegoFrogs (Post 15868583)
She's carrying precious human cargo and wants to have good, redundant brakes. Have you seen a coaster brake on a cheap bike?

You might want to consider not writing on Fridays, either.

:lol:

I think we might be getting trolled.


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