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Old 02-26-05, 08:14 PM   #1
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SS parts on Ebay v. mailorder

Will someone please explain to me why people are paying more for USED parts on Ebay than they could buy the new part for mailorder? I've been watching Truvativ Stylo SS cranks on Ebay for weeks now and they are routinely going for more than you can buy them from several mailorder companies. I'm not talking about outboard bearing models either these are identical ISIS parts. Even the shipping is more on Ebay for half of the offerings. I don't get it.
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Old 02-26-05, 09:58 PM   #2
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The (albeit false) notion of a "deal." eBay is predicated on this concept.

eBay is excellent for niche items and "gems" that are either miscategorized or mistitled (I recall that lucky SOB that got the bianchi concept prototype. Hats off!), not everyday items.

Or at least I have not found it to be as such.
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A fool and his money.

People lose sight of the process and get into bidding wars. Or they just don't bother to do thier homework before hand.
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it's amazing how the price of an item will increase by like 30% in the last minute of bidding. it's fun to watch, too.
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Its hard for me buying stuff on ebay being canadian, because when I am thinking of bidding on an item I have to do calculations to figure out how much I want to spend. This means I have to figure out a max price in Canadian dollars(usually what I could buy the item for at the LBS), convert that into US dollars, then estimate what the shipping will be (always way more than I expect), and subtract that from the total leaving me with my bidding budget. Then the wild card is Canada customs who may or may not charge you a bazillion dollars.

For instance, I was recently shopping for a bmx frame, and wanted to spend under 50 bucks Canadian. I find a nice old haro frame and win the auction at 2.25USD. I'm thinking how much money I managed to not spend and then I get the invoice with shipping added and its 52.25USD from Long Island to Toronto!! Might as well have bought a better frame from an ebay seller who wasn't a crook.
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Old 02-26-05, 11:22 PM   #6
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Will someone please explain to me why people are paying more for USED parts on Ebay than they could buy the new part for mailorder? I've been watching Truvativ Stylo SS cranks on Ebay for weeks now and they are routinely going for more than you can buy them from several mailorder companies. I'm not talking about outboard bearing models either these are identical ISIS parts. Even the shipping is more on Ebay for half of the offerings. I don't get it.

Yeah, it's weird. They do the same thing when it comes to power tools and earphones. I saw these expensive ($100+) Shure earphones selling for more than in they do in local hi-fi shops WITH tax. We're talking one transaction after another, every few minutes. People get addicted, and they forget what they're originally searching for, and they stumble upon something else and they get into a bidding war and they don't bother doing their research (as a previous poster pointed out.) I got lucky once and found a bunch of stuff being offered by an LBS and managed to avoid all shipping costs--think it was NOS that they were trying to clear out. Walked into the shop having bought stuff for a fraction of the price I would have if I had purchased it directly!
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Local pickups make the ebay experience much less expensive. I have bought stuff locally though where the seller refuses pickup and I've had to pay for shipping instead...
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The days where ebay is "the" place for deals are over. Too many "Power Sellers" over charging and ripping people off with inflated shipping and too many stupid people willing to pay for the high prices. My local flea market is my way to find deals now.
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i still find the occasional deal on ebay, but it takes some work.
saved searches are a good way to go, and ALWAYS read the fine print about shipping.
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Talking about gems that are wrongly listed, I came across a trackbike (white, lugged columbus tubes, campy and cinelli kit-standard fare) with mispelled title and in the wrong category. It sat on 70 until the last few hours then it got one bid. Im thinkin I could get it for around 100 or so. BUT NOOOOO!! in the last few minutes two heavyhitters came in with 250+ bids! Thats outrageous here! Used, older trackbikes generally go for less than 200 here.
You guys are making it too popular over there, stop it!
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I was talking to a friend who said he won a new frame. Of course, by "won," he meant "purchased on ebay." Auctions are a bit like gambling, and many people stick with the notion of winning.

The other hook is that if you "lose" the auction, you've already invested up to a week's time in its progression- and assuming you can find the same part, you'll need to wait up to another week to "win" it. Some people lack the patience... this after an initial lowball nibble bid. Psychologically they are only in for a few dollars- even though it ends up selling for much more.

Finally, there are those of us who are married- whose wives don't mind us buying stuff on ebay- assuming it is almost free

BTW- I just built up a new conversion for next to nothing from all ebay parts- except the frameset. Much more selection of parts to choose from than the local boneyard.
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Old 02-27-05, 08:48 PM   #12
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The days where ebay is "the" place for deals are over. Too many "Power Sellers" over charging and ripping people off with inflated shipping and too many stupid people willing to pay for the high prices. My local flea market is my way to find deals now.
Any powerseller who knows what he's doing will disclose the shipping costs up front. I don't mind paying handling charges, or surcharges for international shipping, as long as the charges are stated in the auction or (extremely quickly) supplied when I ask. That way I just figure the shipping into my maximum bid. Look for the ebay shipping calculator function before you bid. Bidding on an auction without knowing the shipping cost is _asking_ to be ripped off.
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it jus takes smart shopping to get good deals. people wanna buy from the power sellers with lotsa pics and info so lots of great deals can be found in items with only one pic and just a sentence description. i got a $80 selle italia seat for $20 because the guy didnt know what model-i did my research and got just what i expected.
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Old 02-27-05, 10:24 PM   #14
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I sold the WTB Rocket V Comp Saddle off my Pista for $61. The thing can't be worth more than $20, though I did find it at my LBS priced at $40 (they are notorious about overpricing, btw). It was the first thing I replaced when I bought it, and you can imagine my suprise when I unloaded it. Gaudy as all getout.
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