Can my brakeless ticket be a fix it ticket?
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Can my brakeless ticket be a fix it ticket?
I recently got a ticket for riding brakeless and the bail amount is nearly $200. The officer said i can have any other officer sign off the ticket if i installed brake(s). Though this was said by the ticketing officer, the notice in the mail says i dont need to appear in court and to just pay the bail amount. if i follow the officers instructions will my ticket bail amount be reduced to a fix it ticket?
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I recently got a ticket for riding brakeless and the bail amount is nearly $200. The officer said i can have any other officer sign off the ticket if i installed brake(s). Though this was said by the ticketing officer, the notice in the mail says i dont need to appear in court and to just pay the bail amount. if i follow the officers instructions will my ticket bail amount be reduced to a fix it ticket?
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I know less than nothing about CA traffic law, but there's no way I'd pay bail and skip the court appearance. If you meant "fine" rather than bail then maybe but I still don't think I'd trust it, even less so for some kind of "fix it". I'd get brakes on it, get an officer to sign off if possible (but I don't know exactly what that means either, go up to a cop and say please sign this??), or pictures and a shop invoice if not, and take that all into court and ask for lenience.
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I wonder if the cop would even show up in court? Might be able to plead not guilty with no contest or however that works.
You might want to find someone who knows more about this type of stuff. If you're in college, you might be able to get some free legal advice from someone associated with the school.
You might want to find someone who knows more about this type of stuff. If you're in college, you might be able to get some free legal advice from someone associated with the school.
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Fix it tickets are easy, no need to pay the fine, just fix it and be done with.
They usually work by having an appointment or walking in at the issuing PD office and requesting the ticket be signed off by a police clerk or inspector after having vehicle inspected by said person with corrected faults to make road worthy as following laws (i.e. with brakes installed).
Once signed off you might be able to hand it in or complete the paperwork to mail it in depending on the department.
They usually work by having an appointment or walking in at the issuing PD office and requesting the ticket be signed off by a police clerk or inspector after having vehicle inspected by said person with corrected faults to make road worthy as following laws (i.e. with brakes installed).
Once signed off you might be able to hand it in or complete the paperwork to mail it in depending on the department.
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A law really exists that you need certain types of brakes on a bike? It seems a little odd that this is justified on just bikes as there are many other modes of man powered transpo. that do not have non-man powered brakes (i.e. roller blades, skate boards, uni-cycles,....). Anybody else live in a state with these laws?
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This.
It's generally used as a reckless cycling ticket for guys bombing on their sw8 fixays.
It's generally used as a reckless cycling ticket for guys bombing on their sw8 fixays.
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What does the ticket look like? Is it a Citation, or a Mechanical ticket?
if it looks like this:
Then you can fix it. If its a citation, you can fight it or pay it.
if it looks like this:
Then you can fix it. If its a citation, you can fight it or pay it.
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Please tell us the outcome because I live in California too and often ride brake less.
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21201. (a) No person shall operate a bicycle on a roadway unless it is equipped with a brake which will enable the operator to make one braked wheel skid on dry, level, clean pavement.
Don't bother trying to argue that your legs can lock up the rear wheel on a fixed gear, it won't work. Just install some brakes, go to the police station with the bike and the ticket, get an officer to sign it and mail that to the courts.
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Yah but the op said he didn't know if it was a fix it ticket and anyways that's what I would plan on doing. But for fear of jinxing myself and getting cited tomorrow I will not say "but we don't get too many cops around here."
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I hope the OP gets his bike fixed and avoids the ticket, there seems to be a lot more things that need a ticket than this.
A guy I occasionally meet said he met a cop on the MUP one day, he was just hanging with the guy, he was just starting out on bike patrol, was fat and sweaty from exertion so the rider figured he enjoyed the brief break. The cop looked funny at his bike and asked about the brakes as he didn't see any. The riders bike had disk brakes, he proceeded to explain about them and was surprised when he whipped out his ticket book and started to write a citation. WTF! This cop could just NOT understand about disk brakes, he figured if he didn't see rim brakes the bike had none. He kept trying to explain, even pushed his bike forward and squeezed on the front brake and lifted the rear wheel, the cop muttered something about "non standard" and kept writing. Well his supervisor rode up and wondered what was going on, the cop started to explain and the super just looked at the rider, rolled his eyes and told him to move on. The rider said the super was chewing the new cop a new one as he took off. Talk about stupid! I pity the fool that dares to run coaster brakes!
A guy I occasionally meet said he met a cop on the MUP one day, he was just hanging with the guy, he was just starting out on bike patrol, was fat and sweaty from exertion so the rider figured he enjoyed the brief break. The cop looked funny at his bike and asked about the brakes as he didn't see any. The riders bike had disk brakes, he proceeded to explain about them and was surprised when he whipped out his ticket book and started to write a citation. WTF! This cop could just NOT understand about disk brakes, he figured if he didn't see rim brakes the bike had none. He kept trying to explain, even pushed his bike forward and squeezed on the front brake and lifted the rear wheel, the cop muttered something about "non standard" and kept writing. Well his supervisor rode up and wondered what was going on, the cop started to explain and the super just looked at the rider, rolled his eyes and told him to move on. The rider said the super was chewing the new cop a new one as he took off. Talk about stupid! I pity the fool that dares to run coaster brakes!
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Fix it tickets are no problem. They are expunged when you get them fixed. In California the law says:
21201. (a) No person shall operate a bicycle on a roadway unless it is equipped with a brake which will enable the operator to make one braked wheel skid on dry, level, clean pavement.
21201. (a) No person shall operate a bicycle on a roadway unless it is equipped with a brake which will enable the operator to make one braked wheel skid on dry, level, clean pavement.
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I think it's stupid because a front brake will stop you faster, and more safely, than a rear. :/
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A law really exists that you need certain types of brakes on a bike? It seems a little odd that this is justified on just bikes as there are many other modes of man powered transpo. that do not have non-man powered brakes (i.e. roller blades, skate boards, uni-cycles,....). Anybody else live in a state with these laws?