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Old 08-27-13, 08:54 PM   #1
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Advise Sought on Problematic New SS/Fixie

I'm an experienced road cyclist but know virtually nothing about single speed/Fixies. While in SoCal last week looking for apartments for my son we bought him a 6KU entry level bike. It's very stylish with a bright orange steel frame and Very deep wheels and that's what he wanted. After only a few rides, a number of issues have come up. At this point I'm thinking he should take it back to the shop where we bought it and ask for a full credit towards purchasing a higher end bike. What do you guys think?
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Old 08-27-13, 09:08 PM   #2
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What are the issues? Defects or just dissatisfaction? They may not give you full credit towards another bike. Tell them your grievances but don't be obnoxious and expectant.
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Old 08-27-13, 10:09 PM   #3
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Do you know which brand/model the bike is?
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Here's the bike.

http://www.citygrounds.com/6ku/6ku-c...gear-bike-3097

pedal came off during first ride. Third ride resulted in loose, nearly unattached crank arm. The original tubes had an odd, slick feel to them, so I swapped them out (had to be done anyway, as there was insufficient stem to get a pump attached.) so, mostly defects.

i understood that, at that price, it was an entry-level ride, but it still hasn't measured up, IMO.
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Here's the bike.

http://www.citygrounds.com/6ku/6ku-c...gear-bike-3097

pedal came off during first ride. Third ride resulted in loose, nearly unattached crank arm. The original tubes had an odd, slick feel to them, so I swapped them out (had to be done anyway, as there was insufficient stem to get a pump attached.) so, mostly defects.

i understood that, at that price, it was an entry-level ride, but it still hasn't measured up, IMO.
How did the pedal come off? Did it threading strip? Other more experienced members will probably give better info, but it sounds like it was assembled poorly, or at the very least, not properly checked over by the shop (if it came mostly assembled).
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I don't know the details of the pedal or crank problem, but they've stranded him twice. The attraction was the bike's simplicity. He has a Giant Defy sitting here at home.
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This will help with the valves...
http://www.topeak.com/products/Pumps...aValveExtender

As for the pedals/crank arm...I'd give anything that could be tightened a good once over, tighten everything, etc...it could just be a bad assembly or it could be stripped parts. I'd give it a once over before the next few rides and then periodically after that...just to see if it was bad assembly or if the parts are actually stripped.
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You're an "experienced road cyclist" but don't know how to check if pedals and crank arm bolts are tight (which are things you should check periodically, especially after riding a new bike for the first time even if it was assembled properly)? Sounds about right.
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"fixies" aren't some strange class of bicycle where ****ty is somehow acceptable. If the simple problems can't be fixed, take it back. If you can afford a better bike then buy a better bike.
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You're an "experienced road cyclist" but don't know how to check if pedals and crank arm bolts are tight (which are things you should check periodically, especially after riding a new bike for the first time even if it was assembled properly)? Sounds about right.
Sorry, I can't agree with this as applied to what happened to this bike. Properly installed parts may creak after installation and need slightly retightened, they don't fall off.

OP's experience riding bikes does not, nor should it, equate to skill as a wrench. If everyone did their own work bike shops' service depts. would be pretty empty.

Finally, it's his kid at college, not him, who is likely to be working on/not working on/baffled by the bike, so who cares how experienced pops is.

OP, I would go back to the shop and explain the issues you have had in a non aggro tone and ask what they can do for you if anything (I would say at least a free check over of everything is in order at a MINIMUM).
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You realize that if you fail to "slightly retighten" something after it gets loose it's going to eventually keep getting looser, right? Loosen one of your crank arm bolts, go ride around for a few days and let me know what happens. The bike very well may not have been assembled correctly but I would thik an experienced cyclist would have at least checked those things before sending his kid out on the road (or at least have some sort of understanding as to why these parts loosened up and/or fell off).

It's very seldom seen but everyone riding a bike should at least have the common knowledge to tighten a ****ing bold every now and again without having to go to a bike shop.
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It's very seldom seen but everyone riding a bike should at least have the common knowledge to tighten a ****ing bolt every now and again without having to go to a bike shop.
Have you ever been to a co-op? Some people are mechanically clueless and need their hands held for every turn of the wrench, meanwhile others just aren't interested. People also expect their shop purchased bike to not need immediate inspection and to not fall apart, otherwise why go to a shop? People like us, who work on bikes all time, can go to a shop and be skeptical of the work but it is something else for the average person to go have their bike worked on.

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You're an "experienced road cyclist" but don't know how to check if pedals and crank arm bolts are tight (which are things you should check periodically, especially after riding a new bike for the first time even if it was assembled properly)? Sounds about right.
Retroactive </thread>, all posts after this one declared irrelevant.
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I don't think this has anything to do with whether or not he can fix the problems. I have a feeling that OP purchased his son a bike already under the assumption that ****ty quality was the norm for this style of bike and is wondering if these issues should have been expected or if he can easily get a refund/repair. Pedals, cranks, tubes, and even deep wheels aren't anything exclusive to fixed gear bikes as everyone here knows and the issues his son had could be addressed in any bike forum but he came to SS/FG because he bought a previously boxed "fixie".

Or I could be completely wrong.
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People also expect their shop purchased bike to not need immediate inspection and to not fall apart, otherwise why go to a shop? People like us, who work on bikes all time, can go to a shop and be skeptical of the work but it is something else for the average person to go have their bike worked on.
I would go as far as to say the average person I know expects to never have to take a shop purchased bike back to the shop even for a tune up. A lot of people believe they can buy a new bike and ride it for 10 years without even lubing the chain
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Which is 1000% ridiculous.

Dear humanity,

Helplessness doesn't look good on you. Smarten the **** up.

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Thanks for the input, guys; lol. Yes, the bike is in SoCal, while pops is in NorCal; perhaps too tricky for Beverly to grasp...

Sinikl and Carnage explained it better than I: Paying less than $300 for a new bike at a bike shop left me uncertain what to expect, quality and warranty-wise. Junior has been nearly stranded twice in ten days (not ten years.) while SS/FGs may not be alien beings, the shop and its inventory are distinctly different from anything I'm familiar with. There were other oddities about the bike (saddle and mounting bracket are integrated) that gave me pause, but we were in the midst of a big transition and I didn't ask enough questions.

I'm gonna explore the trade-up approach and see what it yields. Thanks, again.
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The OP called Scrod Beverly
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Old 08-28-13, 04:39 PM   #19
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He can call me whatever he wants. At least I know how to tighten a pedal.
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scrod you think 40 for a cane creek 40 is a good deal?
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If you want to get rid of it Im willing to pick it up at deep disccount ,
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Beverly?
I once dated a girl (sqrl?) named Beverly.
Sorry Scrod, looked nothing like you.
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nah someone has one for sale locally
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So much "What the hell are you talking about?" going on in this thread. Good job, everyone.
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Didn't there used to be an ask scrod thread? Gene u drunk
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