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New Fixed gear winter bike build, mostly just need a frame

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Old 09-25-13, 03:05 PM
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If you are riding fixed with good foot retention in a lot of ice and snow, then you don't really need or want any brakes. A front brake can actually be dangerous in those conditions and rear rim brakes are harder to modulate than back pedalling. I used to live in Michigan and my winter fixed gear trainer bike was brakeless.
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idk man, it's not like you're on ice 100% of the time.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
If you are riding fixed with good foot retention in a lot of ice and snow, then you don't really need or want any brakes. A front brake can actually be dangerous in those conditions and rear rim brakes are harder to modulate than back pedalling. I used to live in Michigan and my winter fixed gear trainer bike was brakeless.
Yeah, in addition to winter duties it's going to be my year-round utlity bike. I'll be putting some pretty heavy loads on the racks, so it's getting at least a front brake.
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Yeah, in addition to winter duties it's going to be my year-round utlity bike. I'll be putting some pretty heavy loads on the racks, so it's getting at least a front brake.
Well, I was just going by your OP that this would be exclusively used in the winter and based on your locale assumed a lot of slippy conditions.
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You could get around the brake post position issue by running 27" wheels rather than 700c ... maybe. That doesn't help the problem with their diameter of course.
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You could get around the brake post position issue by running 27" wheels rather than 700c ... maybe. That doesn't help the problem with their diameter of course.
The difference between 27" and 700c braking radius is only 4mm.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
The difference between 27" and 700c braking radius is only 4mm.
Nah, it's more like 4 feet, surely.

Must confess I thought it was more based on my conversions from 27 to 700c and the difficulties in getting brakes to fit.
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Must confess I thought it was more based on my conversions from 27 to 700c and the difficulties in getting brakes to fit.
Look at the numbers stamped/molded into the sidewalls of your tires. 27" tires will all have 630 on them and 700C tires will all have 622 on them. This is the BSD (bead seat diameter) of the tire in millimeters and corresponds to the effective diameter of the rim. Therefore, the difference in radii is (630mm - 622mm) / 2 = 4mm. FWIW, the BSD of 650C wheels is 571mm and 650B is 584mm.

Per Sheldon Brown >>> https://sheldonbrown.com/rim-sizing.html
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Ah dangit you know you're right! Not only aren't the posts in the right position relative to the rim, they are also a larger diameter than the holes on cantilever brakes, so they won't even fit on the posts at all. I guess I'm going to need to see if the original U-brakes will work with 700, and if not I'll have to scrap this plan and find something different.

Thanks for pointing it out. I blame the fact that I'm usually beat when I get home from a bike coop shift, but I'm really glad I didn't invest too much time in the frame before determining for sure that it will work with my wheels.
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Originally Posted by krakhaus
I hope this doesn't seem harsh considering it's your first post here.

How is he supposed to mount the pads where the posts are, because that's where his rims' braking surfaces are, and still have them move horizontally when the brakes rotate about the posts?

The low cost solution to using that wheelset with your cantilever brakes is to stumble miraculously onto a canti-capable touring or cyclocross bike with cantilever mounts, horizontal dropouts and a clueless seller who is unaware of the current market conditions for such bikes (which the seller already knows).

A much more realistic and cost appropriate solution would be to find an older road/touring/sport-touring bike that would take wider tires with either cheap centerpull brakes or dual pivot sidepull brakes. They work great when adjusted well with good pads and clean, aluminum rims.
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I decided to use this nice Nishiki frame for my fixed winter build. As you can see there's plenty of tire clearance. that's my fair weather fixed wheel with a 25c on it, but there's plenty of room for studded snows and fenders. I've ordered all the parts I need to compliment what's in my parts box.. Sealed bearing headset, and bottom bracket, and a canti fork. Stuff should be here by the end of the week.

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ooh i like that one way better than the white one
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Doesn't really show in the picture, but there is a dimension canti fork behind the fenders there, and a sealed bearing VO headset and BB in the small parts box. Also that really cool upright stem with the built-in brake cable pulley from the white frame.


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Nice. Can't believe you got Paul Giamatti to deliver it.
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It was a slow night at the bike coop. I thought I would get the bottom bracket and the headset and fork on while I helped other people, but there were not other people, so I made a little more progress than I'd hoped for.


The new winter fixed gear is a reality! It still needs some minor adjustments, and it wants a rear rack, but it's whole and rideable as is.

Riding home from the bike coop, the handlebars felt way too high. I made em high on purpose, since my old winter bike sometimes didn't feel comfortable crouched over in bulky winter gear, but I think I went too far. I'll take care of that, and adjust the fenders and the Cetma rack probably tomorrow. Running Tservs for now until the snow flies, then I'll put on studs. Oh yeah I need a different saddle, but this Wright W3n was what I had around.
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Looks really good! I'm glad you were able to find something that works better for your needs.
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