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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmSam View Post
    Who is it that constantly talks people with no clue about working on bikes into buying them unassembled off the interwebz? When these guys then ask for assistance putting their bikes together, instead of castigating them, the Bikesdirect salesmen here should help them a lot more than telling them to take it to a shop. Or while selling them on what a great deal a Kilo is, at least alert them in advance to the hidden additional cost of paying to get their bike built and adjusted if they can't do it.
    While I can kind of see what you're getting at, it takes remedial knowledge to put together a bike, especially a entry level fixed gear one.
    Yes everything may not be dialed in perfectly, but you should be able to get it together.

    I'm mechanically challenged and still managed to get my bike put together, dial in my brakes, and adjust the seat to what I thought was a reasonable level. And it's help up for the 600ish miles I've put on it thus far.
    Google is also pretty useful for anything else. Learning to change tires, adjust chain tension, etc.

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    thats what i dont understand. Simple research... the guy doesnt know what a presta valve is, He could have simply googled "presta valve" before starting this thread.

    people dont want to put any work into anything anymore they want it all handed to them. it gets annoying and people call it out.

    people are willing to help but they dont want to do all the work for you.
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    we are basically talking about attaching a front wheel and handlebars. if you can't figure that out for yourself you don't even belong riding a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    Google is your friend.

    with that said there is no reason to pay someone to put a ssfg bike together. Get an adjustable wrench, metric Allen key set, pliers, shop grease and then Google some YouTube videos and watch them
    It's a fixed gear. Is that all you're gonna need ? Can you say "stripped rear hub threads ?" Maybe a chain whip for the cog and a lockring wrench ? Also, how about a spoke wrench to true and tension the badly built stock wheels ? Maybe a chain tool ? And can you properly tighten the cranks bolts with a small allen wrench ? How are you going to shorten the brake cable housing and cable to fit properly, because they come uncut from the factory ? Are you going to leave the steerer tube uncut as a big erection, or butcher it with a hacksaw ? Fact is, your gonna need to spend at least $100 initially to properly build, adjust and maintain even a simple FG bike. And even then, you will probably screw some things up badly that you can't undo afterwards.
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    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

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    I just finished my pake rum runner. bought the frame, head and fork. transfered the wheelset i bought from a previous bike. had the fork headset installed and fork cut and the bottom bracket installed. i pulled the cranks off my old bike and installed them on my new bike using a crank removal tool and a torque wrench to install on the new frame.

    I went to a bike shop for my bb installation for facing and what not and having the headset pressed and fork cut because i dont own the tools for that kind of work nor would i ever because of the price of them vs how many times id do it.....

    GOING to your lbs is sometimes necessary. its also good to build a relationship with one too. discounts, help and them teaching you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND View Post
    GOING to your lbs is sometimes necessary. its also good to build a relationship with one too. discounts, help and them teaching you.
    +1. I can do most things myself, but some things I can't like cutting down a carbon steerer tube or building low spoke count wheels with bladed spokes and carbon rims. Also, I don't own super expensive tools that I might need once or twice in a decade, such as BB thread taps. Although I don't need to go to my lbs very much anymore, I occasionally buy some simple stuff like tubes that are a bit cheaper bought online just to toss them a bone so they'll be nice to me when I need help.
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    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

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    exactly.
    just bought two tubes and two co2's from a local because i needed it. a bit more money but also no ****ing wait for shipping and ive supported a localshop.


    im sure i could buy the tools to face a bb and buy the tools to install an bb and cut a steerer tube and a headset press, but the chances of me using them more than once or twice vs the cost of purchasing them all....

    WHY ARE PEOPLE AFRAID OF THEIR LOCAL BIKE SHOPS??? or spending a bit of cash...Plus most shop mechanics if they have the time will walk you through what they are doing or atleast let you watch.
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    Cause it's 2013. ****, people are afraid to talk on the damn phone anymore. The world is a lot more impersonal. #deep
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    No offense but you're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND View Post
    WHY ARE PEOPLE AFRAID OF THEIR LOCAL BIKE SHOPS??? or spending a bit of cash...Plus most shop mechanics if they have the time will walk you through what they are doing or at least let you watch.
    Well, it depends on the shop, of course. Some shops have little or no experience with track/FG bikes and don't know how to properly install and tighten a fixed cog and lockring. Some shops don't know how to properly mount a tubular tire. These are things you need to learn to do yourself and have the proper tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

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    damn it nagrom stop using hashtags... it isnt helping.


    i say ban the internet and texting.

    lets go back to regular phone calls and letters.
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    This is the internet? Dang, I thought this was real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND View Post
    i say ban the internet and texting.

    lets go back to regular phone calls and letters.
    you mean we'd have to have real face to face conversations?

    and maybe confront people in real life?

    do not want

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Well, it depends on the shop, of course. Some shops have little or no experience with track/FG bikes and don't know how to properly install and tighten a fixed cog and lockring. Some shops don't know how to properly mount a tubular tire. These are things you need to learn to do yourself and have the proper tools.
    true... that isnt the norm though. plus a good shop will find out how. i know of two shops here in vegas that i like in particular, one has lesser experienced but super friendly owner/people that i get discounts with and the other has a very experienced staff but they charge more. Even then with the pricier shop i still got things at a decent price because i came in and was social and explained what i wanted.

    If you go into a shop, talk and explain what you do or dont know and what you need most will accomodate you. Ive been to one or two shops that had stuck up people and i simply moved on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    This is the internet? Dang, I thought this was real life.
    really :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    Google is your friend.

    with that said there is no reason to pay someone to put a ssfg bike together. Get an adjustable wrench, metric Allen key set, pliers, shop grease and then Google some YouTube videos and watch them
    Says the kid who posted this gleaming gem of a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Says the kid who posted this gleaming gem of a thread.
    That thread was semi tongue in cheek to entertain people. And I'm no kid, I'm old enough to be your older cousin!
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    You're over 40?

    Regardless, you're giving ****ty advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Well, it depends on the shop, of course. Some shops have little or no experience with track/FG bikes and don't know how to properly install and tighten a fixed cog and lockring. Some shops don't know how to properly mount a tubular tire. These are things you need to learn to do yourself and have the proper tools.
    This and the fact that when I was still very new I brought my first fixie to my LBS to get a tune up and "build a relationship". $70 later they basically installed new brake cables and adjusted the calipers and charged me what they charge to do a tune up on a geared road bike.
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    As TT explained, there are good shops and bad shops. By asking a few simple questions before letting them work on your bike, you probably would have been able to avoid paying for services you did not receive.

    Also - you're talking about a tune up in the above post, not initial assembly.

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    I buy just about everything sub 1-200 bucks at the lbs, hell I even had my wheels bought/built there and it came out to about the same as internet prices but you gotta shop around for the right one. I try to buy everything from small local stores since im a hippie though.

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    OP, your bike will come with rudimentary assembly instructions. Or you can find them on the BD website.

    What you are asking here is something you could find out without people having to answer you, personally. Either search through SS/FG for similar stuff, or google. Pretty much everyone here takes questions like you ask and responses you give as: "Hey, I don't know anything, so can you please do my research for me?"

    Bare minimum, you will need a multi-tool with 4, 5mm hex wrenches, a 15mm crescent/box wrench, and maybe a cable cutter if you are using a front brake which comes not installed. You will need to bolt on: the handlebars, maybe the front brake, the front wheel, pedals, and the saddle/seatpost.

    ^^^Bare minimum. Bonus points if you true your wheels, repack your hubs with grease and adjust the bearings correctly (does KiloTTPro even have adjustable bearings?), take out your BB and grease threads, remove your front fork and grease headset bearings. Re-assemble everything to correct bolt torque settings and bearing tensions. Most of which requires specialized tools. Does this sound daunting to you? Then maybe bringing the bike to a quality LBS is the way to go...

    Thing is, in all this, I forget that obvious things like "inflate tires with valve-compatible pump," or including a tool to cut tie-wraps when you pull the bike out of the box, so whatever anyone tells you will probably not be the be-all end-all assembly instruction for which you asked.

    Good luck. It's not rocket science: if the groms at the local BMX shot can screw it up, you can, too!
    I know next to nothing. I am frequently wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
    we are basically talking about attaching a front wheel and handlebars. if you can't figure that out for yourself you don't even belong riding a bike.
    Here's what I/my LBS found wrong with the Kilo I got, out of the box:
    -cone nuts set way too tight on both wheels (obvious, they spun with "detents" click-click-click)
    -wheel bearings waaay too lightly greased
    -BB spindle nuts loose
    -headset DRY, no grease
    -cog loose. once tightened, lockring too loose (of course)
    -wheels out of true (expected, they fixed it tho)

    you will need specialized parts to fix some of those (especially the cog and lockring) and knowledge you don't have to tell you if it's wrong out of the box. Pay a shop. I spent 45 bucks and even got my wheels trued. then, you start a relationship with the shop (independent shop) so when you need stuff, you go back, they know and like you.

    take it to a shop.

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    let me add, the cost of a decent chainwhip and lockring tool will exceed the cost of what I paid to have someone fully fettle the bike. I later ruined two hubs through my own incompetence and hubris armed with said tools. Pay the man, ask questions, learn something, get experience by exchanging cash for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinikl View Post
    let me add, the cost of a decent chainwhip and lockring tool will exceed the cost of what I paid to have someone fully fettle the bike. I later ruined two hubs through my own incompetence and hubris armed with said tools. Pay the man, ask questions, learn something, get experience by exchanging cash for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by sinikl View Post
    Here's what I/my LBS found wrong with the Kilo I got, out of the box:
    -cone nuts set way too tight on both wheels (obvious, they spun with "detents" click-click-click)
    -wheel bearings waaay too lightly greased
    -BB spindle nuts loose
    -headset DRY, no grease
    -cog loose. once tightened, lockring too loose (of course)
    -wheels out of true (expected, they fixed it tho)

    you will need specialized parts to fix some of those (especially the cog and lockring) and knowledge you don't have to tell you if it's wrong out of the box. Pay a shop. I spent 45 bucks and even got my wheels trued. then, you start a relationship with the shop (independent shop) so when you need stuff, you go back, they know and like you.

    take it to a shop.

    Why don't you guys speak up louder when the Kilo salesmen are working on the innocents?

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    OP, when you bought the bike you should have received links to instruction manuals and youtube videos giving step by step instructions on how to assemble the bike. I'd start there.

    You don't need a presta valve...your bike has tubes that have presta valves. You will need a pump that will inflate tubes with presta valves.

    Tighten every bolt/nut on the bike, then do it again.

    These sites/videos will be helpful:
    http://www.parktool.com/videos
    http://www.pinkbike.com/u/spoiledgoo...uesday-Videos/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH5-9...2C55372AAE11CC
    http://www.youtube.com/user/PerformanceBikes

    (plus countless other howto youtube vids)
    Hey guys, lets go play bikes!

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