Help me build my Roomie her ultra light dream track bike!!!
01-05-14, 05:25 PM
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Alright, new idea.
Since a lot of frames/framesets in the $200-$500 dollar range are not actually lighter than her IRO (mark v?), just take that money plus whatever you are going to spend on a used Fuji and buy some newer, lighter components? Mainly wheels.
Since a lot of frames/framesets in the $200-$500 dollar range are not actually lighter than her IRO (mark v?), just take that money plus whatever you are going to spend on a used Fuji and buy some newer, lighter components? Mainly wheels.
01-05-14, 05:49 PM
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If your rider hasn't joined a club & gotten a license now is the time to do it.
Chat w/ the mechanics & coaches at the velodrome during pre-season training sessions and you'll get the basics (as it were) up to speed technically. If you are wrenching for a serious rider you'll be spending lots of time in their company, ease into the community earn respect and proceed. It's not about the hardware and never has been.
-Bandera
Chat w/ the mechanics & coaches at the velodrome during pre-season training sessions and you'll get the basics (as it were) up to speed technically. If you are wrenching for a serious rider you'll be spending lots of time in their company, ease into the community earn respect and proceed. It's not about the hardware and never has been.
-Bandera
01-05-14, 07:16 PM
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My vote was for the jamis sonik cause I like how it looks and the 2011 model looks sick all blacked out and they are cheap, also the 2012 or 13 specialized langster pro is f&$king fire with the red and white colors and American Classic wheels but they are hard to find and expensive. I want to just build her an Unknown for price purposes, ideally she'd bump up the budget and I'd build her a kissena or a dosnoventa. The dosnoventa is my top choice just cause I like riding **** few other people have. They are rare in America I don't think they have american distro yet.
Of course I could just start building but I don't have the encyclopedic knowledge of weight vs price that some people do, that's why I came asking. I don't ride track myself, built tons if them vintage and new though. Now if I was building a Bmx or a vintage road bike on the other hand...
Of course I could just start building but I don't have the encyclopedic knowledge of weight vs price that some people do, that's why I came asking. I don't ride track myself, built tons if them vintage and new though. Now if I was building a Bmx or a vintage road bike on the other hand...
The dosnoventa sucks for racing for these reasons:
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It's got a road front end (slack head tube) and a track rear (steep seat tube and high bottom bracket). Pretty bike, but probably not the first pick for a velodrome.
https://www.dosnoventabikes.com/faq.aspx#Geometry
It's got a road front end (slack head tube) and a track rear (steep seat tube and high bottom bracket). Pretty bike, but probably not the first pick for a velodrome.
https://www.dosnoventabikes.com/faq.aspx#Geometry
1) An "aero" seatpost doesn't provide much (if any) aero benefit. Think about it. Your legs are churning up air like an egg beater right in front of it. That air is so "dirty" (meaning not smooth) that an aero seatpost can't do much to save it.
2) This "aero" seatpost on the Houston frame is round...just like any other round seatpost. So, it's thicker and no more round than a standard 27.2 post which actually makes it less aero...if aero seatposts were a real factor in aerodynamics
3) Integrated Seat Posts (ISP) create an obvious problem: Once you cut it, you can't un-cut it. So, if you cut it too short, you are sh*t out of luck. You can't even hover the cap over the post on this bike because the cap sits inside of the mast of the ISP. When you train/race, you'll adjust your seatpost a lot for various reasons (drop vs aerobars, new saddle setback, adjusting pedaling style, adjusting leg reach). So, when you buy this bike you can't do any of that. You get one chance and that's it. This is reason enough to avoid this bike, for track or street use.
4) This is a bad bike with a nice paint job.
2) This "aero" seatpost on the Houston frame is round...just like any other round seatpost. So, it's thicker and no more round than a standard 27.2 post which actually makes it less aero...if aero seatposts were a real factor in aerodynamics
3) Integrated Seat Posts (ISP) create an obvious problem: Once you cut it, you can't un-cut it. So, if you cut it too short, you are sh*t out of luck. You can't even hover the cap over the post on this bike because the cap sits inside of the mast of the ISP. When you train/race, you'll adjust your seatpost a lot for various reasons (drop vs aerobars, new saddle setback, adjusting pedaling style, adjusting leg reach). So, when you buy this bike you can't do any of that. You get one chance and that's it. This is reason enough to avoid this bike, for track or street use.
4) This is a bad bike with a nice paint job.
01-05-14, 07:20 PM
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My Roomie wants to get super into racing and doing a few alleycats this year and street training. She's an experienced alleycat racer and rides her current street fixie every day in the mean streets of NYC. Right now she has a street fixie IRO that is pretty heavy.
I need recommendations on a very light aluminum frame/fork size 49cm in the $200 to $500 range. Anything good on sale right now? Good websites to look? I'm probably just going to get her to pick up a used Fuji Track 1 complete and we'll go from there, sell the wheels and parts gradually so I can build her something stupid light but strong. But I wanted to check to see if anyone has any good recommendations on more unique frames that fit those criteria. Basically I'm looking for lightness above all else.
I need recommendations on a very light aluminum frame/fork size 49cm in the $200 to $500 range. Anything good on sale right now? Good websites to look? I'm probably just going to get her to pick up a used Fuji Track 1 complete and we'll go from there, sell the wheels and parts gradually so I can build her something stupid light but strong. But I wanted to check to see if anyone has any good recommendations on more unique frames that fit those criteria. Basically I'm looking for lightness above all else.
Basically I'm looking for lightness above all else.
01-05-14, 07:25 PM
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Words falling on deaf ears.
01-05-14, 10:57 PM
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I think we all agree that geoluv is an idiot, if a pro mechanic and a "experienced" rider can't put together their own damn bike they are stupid.
Although it does take time and I spent a lot of time poking around here before I went in on a new bike, but I never posted asking for questions unless I really didn't know what I was talking about.
carleton said build two bikes and I must agree, my fuji is a track bike and sometimes I get really pissed at the geometry when I ride on the street.
I suggest two cheaper bikes as well.
Although it does take time and I spent a lot of time poking around here before I went in on a new bike, but I never posted asking for questions unless I really didn't know what I was talking about.
carleton said build two bikes and I must agree, my fuji is a track bike and sometimes I get really pissed at the geometry when I ride on the street.
I suggest two cheaper bikes as well.
01-06-14, 01:48 AM
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Did you see this website? https://www.evanscycles.com/products/...-bike-ec041476
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01-06-14, 01:54 AM
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Shes going to be racing alleycats too, lots of straight line acceleration. Also street training, don't want to get fatigued just from the weight of your bike. Which reminds me the forks gotta have a brake hole cause some silly ride she's doing in LA requires a front brake...
I know I've been playing MGs lately and possibly my brain is a bit more scrambled than usual, but that just doesn't make sense in the real world.Not commenting on Bat56, I included his comment for context only.
01-06-14, 07:17 AM
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Drinking angry orchard, reading this because I'm waiting for gta to install on my ps3 I borrowed from my boss
01-06-14, 10:25 AM
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Your cog is slipping.
01-06-14, 12:08 PM
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So he's deciding to completely ignore my response linking the Dolan w/road fork for his price range. Hmmmmmm
01-06-14, 12:11 PM
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Racing alleycats and doing other speedy street riding? Not actual velodrome riding and racing? I think there's another forum for that sort of bike, #41 .
01-06-14, 12:29 PM
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There are some frames and bikes on sale right now at citygrounds.com
If she's going to race in LA, she doing the Marathon Crash Race and Drag races?
Lots of fun, good luck to her and hope she finds the right bike!
She may want to invest in a couple different cogs and chainring sizes. The courses out here might be a little more hilly than NYC
If she's going to race in LA, she doing the Marathon Crash Race and Drag races?
Lots of fun, good luck to her and hope she finds the right bike!
She may want to invest in a couple different cogs and chainring sizes. The courses out here might be a little more hilly than NYC
01-07-14, 01:44 AM
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Such a great value. I was very happy with my interaction with DPM sports. Their site is a little lackluster, but they responded to my e-mail promptly and shipped super fast.
01-07-14, 11:46 AM
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It's been scientifically proven by Morgan that the lightest you can get a #kilott is 15.56 lbs. Prolly not light enough for an experienced rider though.
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01-07-14, 12:53 PM
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It's been scientifically proven by Morgan that the lightest you can get a #kilott is 15.56 lbs. Prolly not light enough for an experienced rider though.
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