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    Quote Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver View Post
    Rear wheel skids are controllable... It is just that braking with the rear wheel is really inefficient.
    "rear wheel skids are controllable" is an absolute that isn't true.
    You know what's more controllable? A rolling wheel.


    Generally, if you're grabbing brakes hard enough to lock them something has already gone wrong. No need to add fishtailing to the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom_ View Post
    "rear wheel skids are controllable" is an absolute that isn't true.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=229_1286960718

    But yeah, skidding sucks. I dont like guys that shred the gnar skidding around corners on trails.
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    The Pista is drilled for brakes, I'm assuming you mean a relatively new Pista and not a Super Pista? If there's a hole drilled in the seat stay bridge all you need to mount a rear brake is your brake lever, a normal rear caliper, cable, housing and either clip-on cable guides, adhesive cable guides, or zipties to keep the housing secured against the frame.
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    Just give fixed a shot, there's nothing to be afraid of especially if you have your front brake on still, flip it to the side with the track cog and take it for a spin around your neighborhood I'm positive you'll enjoy it, and there's no reason to worry. Also don't be confused, everyone worth listening to here is saying use both brakes, go get a cheap set up for the rear brake, as soon as you have money for it. Should be alright until then if you just ride easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom_ View Post
    I'm not trying to be a dick, honest, but this is literally the stupidest thing I've ever read on this site (even after having read Limpy's post). This is liable to get someone killed.
    If your rear wheel locks, and you aren't vertical moving in a straight line, you're going down. If you've got any kind of lean your rear wheel will no longer be under you.


    And by definition, the better your front braking skills, rear braking becomes less and less effective. They are inversely proportional.

    well advocating only a front brake on a freewheel is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

    coming from a motorcycle background, ive seen statistics/studies showing how much front and rear contribute to braking power, and yes the rear adds enough to be significant. sure, motorcycles are a different beast but the principle remains the same: a rear brake (on a free wheel) can provide the necessary stoppage to prevent a disaster where having only a front wouldn't.

    on a fixed you have that redundancy so you really dont need that rear caliper. not so with the freewheel. putting someone's life on the line because you don't think a rear is important enough is just plain stupid.

    then again im also opposed to these people running brakeless, which i know also jives with the mentality of some on this board (cuz sw8 aesthetics take precedent over safety).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
    a rear brake (on a free wheel) can provide the necessary stoppage to prevent a disaster where having only a front wouldn't.
    You need to clarify yourself here.

    If you mean to imply that a rider on a bicycle can come to a complete stop faster with a rear brake than a front, you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMonk View Post
    You need to clarify yourself here.

    If you mean to imply that a rider on a bicycle can come to a complete stop faster with a rear brake than a front, you're wrong.
    rear brake + front brake stopping power > front brake stopping power

    X + Y > Y

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    Quote Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
    well advocating only a front brake on a freewheel is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

    coming from a motorcycle background, ive seen statistics/studies showing how much front and rear contribute to braking power, and yes the rear adds enough to be significant. sure, motorcycles are a different beast but the principle remains the same: a rear brake (on a free wheel) can provide the necessary stoppage to prevent a disaster where having only a front wouldn't.

    on a fixed you have that redundancy so you really dont need that rear caliper. not so with the freewheel. putting someone's life on the line because you don't think a rear is important enough is just plain stupid.

    then again im also opposed to these people running brakeless, which i know also jives with the mentality of some on this board (cuz sw8 aesthetics take precedent over safety).
    Please bold where I said he shouldn't use a rear brake.
    Reread my post, try and actually understand what I'm saying, then try again.


    Motorcycles are very different. You have a 150 pound person on a 500 pound motorcycle, vs. a 150 pound person on top of a 15 pound bike. A bicycle's center of gravity is much much higher. Motorcycles are not relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
    a rear brake (on a free wheel) can provide the necessary stoppage to prevent a disaster where having only a front wouldn't.
    Physics disagrees with this.

    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ht=braking+101

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    Quote Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
    rear brake + front brake stopping power > front brake stopping power

    X + Y > Y


    At Y's greatest value, X = 0.

    X>0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    XOXOXO = Kilo TT
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    Dunno why people fit brakes to bicycles, they only start arguments.
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    As long as OP isn't wearing a helmet he should be fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
    As long as OP isn't wearing a helmet he should be fine.
    Noooooooo, you MUST wear a helmet, you can't control your left crank arm without one.

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    How many more posts before the mods lock this thread?

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    Why not fixed gear with a front brake ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelsonfung21 View Post
    Why not fixed gear with a front brake ?
    You must be new to this thread…..

    All agree that fixed + front brake only = fine.

    But SS + front only = not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
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