TejanoTrackie 

OK, so you're looking to spend less than $500 on a good quality SSFG bike, don't want a Kilo TT but still want a chromoly steel frame made in Taiwan instead of China. How about a fyxation Pixel ?

Pixel Single Speed Bicycle | Fyxation

jhess74

Looks like it's what they used to call "tri-moly" back in the day - cromo main tubes, but a hi ten rear triangle. Haven't seen that in a while.

rms13

Where do you see the details about the hi ten rear triangle?

I saw this bike on the website a few weeks ago and seems interesting. I bought a Eastside frame set to replace my Dolan which was a little too big and too stiff for my taste as a daily commuter. I've been very happy with my Eastside for the money. I was trying to figure out what differentiates the Pixel from the Eastside. Pixel has braze ons for rear rack and cable guides but that's all I could see from the specs

rms13

I guess it's just assumed by 4130 main tubing

TejanoTrackie 

Thing is, the advertised weight is only 23 lbs. Given that it has fairly heavy wheels to start with, it suggests thin/butted tubing in the rear triangle and fork, which is rarely the case with hi-ten steel.

Jared.

Seat tube in one of the pics specifically says tri-moly. I thought the same thing you did when reading the description.

jhess74

Under the specs, it says the frame has 4130 "main tubes" - that generally means the front triangle, if the parlance hasn't changed from the bmx/freestyle heyday of the mid to late '80s. I remember the low end Haros and GTs were always tri-moly instead of full 4130.

Which isn't to imply the frame won't hold up, tri-moly is pretty durable. It's just heavy and sort of dead feeling.

TejanoTrackie 

Except, this bike isn't particularly heavy. See my previous post.

Jared.

Doesn't mean it doesn't have hi-ten tubing.

Anyway, seems like a decent bike. I'd still rather a Kilo TT.

jhess74

That's what I get for selective reading... yeah, 23 lbs isn't bad. Speaks well for the componentry, had to be some offset of the rear triangle's weight there.

TejanoTrackie 

Well, you must not need clearance for wide tires or need to mount a bottle cage to hydrate.

Philasteve

Yeah man the 32c tire clearance does it for me. Would be a good cheap replacement if something ever happened to my Steamroller. I'm using 32c soma everwears now, they're alright but I like bigger comfy tires. I would prob throw that wabi wheelset on this build though to lighten it up a little bit.

johnnytheboy

kids don't need practical things.

Jared.

C'mon...n+1.

Actually my BD Moto Messenger and my Pre-cursa fill my needs just fine.