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Old 05-09-14, 10:33 AM   #26
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It really shouldn't require posting on a forum to figure out how far up to tilt your saddle to keep you from sliding forward.

Try this:

Tilt it up until you stop sliding forward.
Yah, that's awesome.

Here's the thing. First Brooks saddle I've ever had. Never had a saddle that I've had to tilt so far up. Looks weird to me. Feels kinda weird, too.

So, just thought I'd get some feedback from others who also have this saddle, and if it's odd that it's gotta be tilted so far up. "Y'all finding that to be the case?" I mused.

The posts of pics showing (and comments about) this particular saddle working best with bars that are even with the seat, well, that was news to me.

How many other threads would be eliminated if we had to think, "hmmm, is this gonna make Scrod roll his eyes? I better make sure it's applicable to more people than just me before I post a question!"

Not trying to be defensive, but just saying that we're not all professionals here, or bike-shop owners, or what have you. The thread was sharing some good advice, I thought.

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Old 05-09-14, 11:08 AM   #27
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Meow meow meow.
It doesn't take a "professional" to adjust a saddle.
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It doesn't take a "professional" to adjust a saddle.
You're right. My bad.

My hex wrench just went missing, and I got tired of looking for it.

So I posted this thread.
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Old 05-09-14, 11:50 AM   #29
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Pretty sure we are in a closeable state here, yes?
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Pretty sure we are in a closeable state here, yes?
Yeah. But hard to pinpoint just where it went off the rails.
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It really shouldn't require posting on a forum to figure out how far up to tilt your saddle to keep you from sliding forward.

Try this:

Tilt it up until you stop sliding forward.
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You're right. My bad.

My hex wrench just went missing, and I got tired of looking for it.

So I posted this thread.
As I thought. You are excused.
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Old 05-09-14, 04:39 PM   #33
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I HATED the b17. I couldn't get it comfortable at all no matter how I set it. Plus it rubbed/chafed my thighs. I got a Swift and never looked back... well, until I bought a Swallow, but then I went back to the Swift because the Swallow didn't feel right on my fixie. I had to tilt the nose of the Swift up for a while, but gradually it got less slippery and I was able to move it down some.

Here's what it looked like last time I took a pic of it on my bike, you can see it has a slight upward angle:
Sputnik by bhop, on Flickr

Now I have a Cambium and it's the best Brooks i've ridden for my ass. It's not really slippery like the leather saddles, but it still feels better with a slight upward tilt.

I still have the Swallow, and i've ridden it recently on my GF's specialized bike. I just wanted to ride it to switch things up a bit and to see what all the hubbub about a 3rensho bike is about, but the saddle felt great on it and i'm thinking of trying it out on my Bianchi roadie.

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I've heard a theory. The theory goes- who cares what your saddle looks like as long as it's comfy.
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The last thing you want when doing no-handed trackstands is a slippery saddle.
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The last thing you want when doing no-handed trackstands is a slippery saddle.

And there it is folks. My new signature quote.
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Ive managed to strike a nice balance w this setup. Mind you this is w jeans so im not sliding around that much
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Evening saddle munchers. Just been reading the posts as I've had a similar issue myself with the B17, having always used 'spongy' seats in the past. I'm a commuter/tourer and off-roader, although the B17 was bought primarily for road use. I've been slipping back like a slippy thing since installing the B17, and been reluctant to point it up more as previous saddles pointed up too high have given me a numb dick. I'll try pointing it up more, and maybe return to this thread. Maybe not.

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I've heard a theory. The theory goes- who cares what your saddle looks like as long as it's comfy.
I agree, and when in use for its intended purpose your saddle is not very visable.
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Damn, makes me scared to buy a brooks for my Surly. I really want one too, but after reading through this it seems like i'll go with the swift.
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Evening saddle munchers. Just been reading the posts as I've had a similar issue myself with the B17, having always used 'spongy' seats in the past. I'm a commuter/tourer and off-roader, although the B17 was bought primarily for road use. I've been slipping back like a slippy thing since installing the B17, and been reluctant to point it up more as previous saddles pointed up too high have given me a numb dick. I'll try pointing it up more, and maybe return to this thread. Maybe not.

For heaven's sakes mate. Read the bloody thread.
I know you reckon you have, but you're still wiffing about with the set up and you haven't got the basic messages.
As Scrod said, tilt the nose up until you stop sliding forward.
As I explained, the back of the saddle is the bit that needs to be flat, not the overall saddle. It will look downright stupid when new (some always will, they're all different).
Just crank the nose of your saddle up, one click at a time until it starts to make sense, then be prepared to drop it down one click at a time as it beds is (again, as it makes sense). Seat posts without click positions are the best for Brooks, I always wind up between two clicks dammit.

90% of people who have trouble with Brooks saddles do so because they aren't willing to experiment with the set up beyond popular 'norms', despite what being told by long term users. Of the other 10 %, most are just daft and a few unfortunates just don't fit a Brooks (it does happen). Fiddle until it's right. It's like the rest of bike set up, you fiddle, one bit at a time, until it's right ... then be prepared for it to change as your body changes only in this case, the saddle changes as well. The problems only arise when you imagine that hard and fast 'rules' and measurements (eg KOPS) come into play and yes, this flies in the face of most experts and fit systems who want to force your body into a shape defined by a formula.

Take the appropriate spanner/allen key. Climb astride your steed and ride the thing. Stop and adjust your bike every now and then, as you detect something you're not happy with. Remember, every setting on the bike affects everything else so getting the saddle tilt right might lead to a small change in the saddle height might lead to a change in the bars which might lead to a change in the saddle tilt which might lead to you chatting up the waitress at that coffee shop which might lead to ...
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Well, not everyone. Check out the setup on Scrod's BK.

How does he nail it every damn time. Such a nice looking build
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My bars are a couple inches higher than my B-17, and the saddle is perfectly level, and just right for my bum...........
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My bars are a couple inches higher than my B-17, and the saddle is perfectly level, and just right for my bum...........
Yup. It's when the bars are lower than the saddle... that's where it gets tricky.

I've been riding the B17 for a while now, and it's much better. It's tilted up a bit, but it's pretty comfortable.
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