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Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

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Old 06-12-14, 02:37 PM   #26
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T-Buckets, Fat Fenders, Rat Rods & vintage Ferraris are all proper. Maybe not to an OCD fan of one variety, but they're all appreciated by mechanically inclined folk.

I kinda' like looking at 'em all.... OK, maybe not the hybrids or Thrusters.
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Old 06-12-14, 03:06 PM   #27
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A "proper" bicycle is one, upon which after mounting, you pay particular attention to your manner of speech, your style of attire, and your public demeanor. Yes! Now that would be a most "proper" bicycle!
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Proper? IMO, proper is when a theme is chosen before the build, and adhered to all the way through to completion. I like ANY kind of bike when the build is executed "properly".
"Proper is when a theme is chosen before the build and adhered to all the way through to completion."

I think this one is the best definition yet.
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Old 06-13-14, 02:24 AM   #29
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Any exploration into the definition of a "Proper" bike requires a trip to Plato's Cave to contemplate his Theory of Forms and the highest and most fundamental kinds of reality, as "Only knowledge of the Forms constitutes real knowledge." Or, you could just click here on the megathread to see my bike.

Call it predictable and safe, call it lacking a certain je ne sais quoi, but it establishes a baseline reference. Nothing is out of proportion. The tubes are not fantastical shapes. There is no disharmony in geometry, no crass advertising to spoil the view or sensibilities. Observe also the lack of paint, so often a springboard to bad taste.

While it won't be everybody's idea of a pinup, it should be helpful in the larger dialogue to be had about ęsthetics and the beauty of truth.

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A "Proper" bike is owned by the Rothschilds, ridden in the Hamptons on a sunny summer afternoon, where you can place your fixie unlocked, just outside the Almond Al Fresco Bistro. You can there have your server stand by your side, as he spreads Grey Poupon upon your Oscar Meyer Weiner!
Spot on, old chap. No matter how much money one has to blow on Grey Poupon, one can never truly "own" beauty. We can merely cluck at the absence of it, with tongue relocated to cheek.

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Umm... All my bikes are 'proper' for the purpose I built them for. I don't care about aero tubing or flashy logos or pretty vintage components. I care that it performs the function it was built for as well as possible. pretty is just a bonus. I can't ride pretty but useless.

Example. This is my most useful and by far prettiest bike but many would call it an abomination of mismatched parts...

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Old 06-13-14, 04:14 AM   #31
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Campy.
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We're after what makes a bike 'proper', not what spoils the effect
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What makes a bike proper?

A "proper" bike to me, has to be French. With all French components.
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Old 06-13-14, 05:46 AM   #34
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A "proper" bike to me, has to be French. With all French components.
In that case I'll go with a proper bike being Italian.
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Old 06-13-14, 08:15 AM   #35
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Umm... All my bikes are 'proper' for the purpose I built them for. I don't care about aero tubing or flashy logos or pretty vintage components. I care that it performs the function it was built for as well as possible. pretty is just a bonus. I can't ride pretty but useless.

Example. This is my most useful and by far prettiest bike but many would call it an abomination of mismatched parts...

I'd say it looks well suited to its intended use. I would also say that saddle angle makes me worry a bit for your wrists.
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A "proper" bike to me, has to be French. With all French components.
Oh! You mean like the Peugeot!

....Alright then, I think I'm beginning to finally see the light!

Now, if only I could just find one of those darned things for an example
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its got 2 wheels and you can haul ### with it
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A proper bike should wear a tuxedo and speak like Sean Connery (Bond, James Bond)
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