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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmSam View Post
    As soon as the Bikesdirect guy can get the manufacturer that KHS uses to drop their QA & sell him a cheap version; or else steal the new(?) frame design & contract some other bike factory to make it for him
    So like, September?

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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    So like, September?
    I dunno...ask him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steev View Post
    Bikes Direct do not sell to Canada. It's more likely to be a KHS branded frame in Canada as they are sold here.
    I saw a few Kilo TTs when I lived in Toronto. They get across the border. My Bikes Direct bike snuck into Southern Ontario with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketsana View Post
    I wouldn't be comfortable buying a bike that someone claims is a khs but really is the famous kilo.
    I know they are the same but still, false advertisement is not cool.
    I wonder if maybe he bought it off someone who claimed it was a KHS. I like to give the benefit of the doubt but he did mention he's the original owner so meh....
    I actually made an offer closer to $300 based on the info I gathered/learned. Never got a response.
    Maybe cause the last point i made was it wasnt a KHS
    Quote Originally Posted by Steev View Post
    Bikes Direct do not sell to Canada. It's more likely to be a KHS branded frame in Canada as they are sold here.
    KHS bikes here get KHS decals everywhere. Seen a few in person. This is his bike:
    Mercier Stripper (WhiteSplash)
    Quote Originally Posted by ketsana View Post
    Cyclepower has the cheapest Fuji for around $500 I think.

    They also have the Raleigh rush hour for 599.
    I went there yesterday to check out the Raleigh. Pedals suck. My leather soled shoes kept sliding so I didnt get a chance to really crank it. Brakes performed well. Noticed the wheels were not machined so could be why? Wonder how it'l be if wet. They had the Fuji also. ALexrims and conti tires. Didnt get to ride it since it's not Flip flop and my shoes werent ideal for bike riding. And it had purple writing lol
    Overall, the raleigh rode great. couldnt stand the overall look of the bike though. fatter downtube didn't rub me the right way but ill give it another chance tomorrow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jared. View Post
    I saw a few Kilo TTs when I lived in Toronto. They get across the border. My Bikes Direct bike snuck into Southern Ontario with me.
    Seems I'm finding threads of people shipping them to the border, pick it up and either sneak it in or pay the HST (GST+PST) so I'm not surprised. Going to look into this to see if really HST is the only thing payable (12%) and no duties

    On another note, another LBS called and said they got the feather in orange. will check it out and probably my emotions will make me buy it =\

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    Non-machined sidewalls on the rims aren't an issue ... except that as the brake pads wear the annodising off, they'll look a bit tatty for bit, then that'll develop into a regular silver strip and you won't notice. Not a reason not to bike the bike.

    I'd have thought that leather soled shoes were going to slip on any pedal so wear something different. Having said that, pedals are usually among the first things changed on any bike.
    I had a good bike ... so I FIXED it

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    Quote Originally Posted by europa View Post
    Non-machined sidewalls on the rims aren't an issue ... except that as the brake pads wear the annodising off, they'll look a bit tatty for bit, then that'll develop into a regular silver strip and you won't notice. Not a reason not to bike the bike.

    I'd have thought that leather soled shoes were going to slip on any pedal so wear something different. Having said that, pedals are usually among the first things changed on any bike.
    True about the wheels. I bought a small rush hour from them, commuted every day on it for three weeks and the anodizing wore off pretty quick after a few wet and gritty rain rides. I sold the bike cause my knees started to hurt and it was close to 25lbs. I tested drove the marinoni pista crono he had, got a feeling for what a lighter fixed bike feels like and now know what I want.

    I'm looking to replace it with a langster but no one on both sides of the border can get them in my size.

    I may have no choice but to build an alu frame/cf fork bike from the frame up but have a feeling it will be close to $1000 once all is said and done. From my brief research, seems like a leader may fit the bill cause it has drillings for both brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketsana View Post
    True about the wheels. I bought a small rush hour from them, commuted every day on it for three weeks and the anodizing wore off pretty quick after a few wet and gritty rain rides. I sold the bike cause my knees started to hurt and it was close to 25lbs. I tested drove the marinoni pista crono he had, got a feeling for what a lighter fixed bike feels like and now know what I want.

    I'm looking to replace it with a langster but no one on both sides of the border can get them in my size.

    I may have no choice but to build an alu frame/cf fork bike from the frame up but have a feeling it will be close to $1000 once all is said and done. From my brief research, seems like a leader may fit the bill cause it has drillings for both brakes.
    Wait... your knees hurt and you assumed it was a problem with the weight of your bike without trying different gearings first?

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    The gear ratio was not that tall at 46/16. The rush hour was an inexpensive, unresearched impulse buy.
    Basically.. it was an extended test drive and first foray into riding fixed. Used it for commuting and training trying to avg 30kmh on 15k commutes.

    Although my knees ache a bit, I can thank it for increasing my commuting avg on my road bikes by 2kmh.

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    gave the rush hour another ride. pretty good ride but the shop never seem to pump the tires enough the two times i rode it. it gives a false sense of comfort. that aside, not a big fan of the saddle. need a groove down the centre. the rear brakes kept skidding the wheel/tire. too good? it did it even if i squeezed the lever just a bit. the front brake squeeled really loudly. was quite alarming. not sure how logn that takes to go away but it's a heardturner! oh, the pedals suck but no big deal. the weight though was something else. was probably mid to high 20's lbs. did not like the thick downtube either though thats subjective. it does give the bike a more modern look. I liked the track style drop bars. They're powdercoated so it was grippy up top even with sweaty summer palms


    overall, i thought it was OK at best but not what im looking for.


    the KHS flite is out of the question. I sent an offer and i'm now blacklisted by the seller i think. I offered $320 since the bike is $399 USD brand new and it needs some work. to this day, the bike has not been sold


    shop with the fuji didnt have the bike assembled when I visited but i did inspect the new shipment and their weld jobs are not consistent from bike to bike. not sure if that's a sign to avoid them?

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    Thanks to you, I checked out the Fuji track classic at fosters and I like that it weighed 21lb flat. Not bad for 480$.

    One other option is an argon 18 electron for $800. I would need a rear dia compe clamp on brake and levers though.


    Finally there is the langster at 800$ as well but I would have to wait for a 2015 and don't like the sloping tt.
    Last edited by ketsana; 07-17-14 at 02:55 PM.

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    Sloping tt's are ugly
    http://www.pedalroom.com/bike/pake-rum-runner-14226

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketsana View Post
    Thanks to you, I checked out the Fuji track classic at fosters and I like that it weighed 21lb flat. Not bad for 480$.

    One other option is an argon 18 electron for $800. I would need a rear dia compe clamp on brake and levers though.


    Finally there is the langster at 800$ as well but I would have to wait for a 2015 and don't like the sloping tt.
    I'll be blunt, if your knees hurt the culprit is pretty much guaranteed not to be the weight of the frame. (especially when you're nit picking over the weight equivalent to a bottle of water) Get something that fits and adjust the gearing until it's comfortable and your knees will be fine.


    (My Fuji Track Comp was 17.8Lbs stock, incidentally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ketsana View Post
    Thanks to you, I checked out the Fuji track classic at fosters and I like that it weighed 21lb flat. Not bad for 480$.

    One other option is an argon 18 electron for $800. I would need a rear dia compe clamp on brake and levers though.


    Finally there is the langster at 800$ as well but I would have to wait for a 2015 and don't like the sloping tt.
    Glad to hear that. I liked the classic but when I went today, the feather was on sale at $540. Sounds like the track was on sale when you went? Two left on the floor today and both were $579. Needless to say I took home with me an orange feather

    did they have the argon at fosters by the way? As for the langster, yes the sloping top tubes are meh.

    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyLC View Post
    I'll be blunt, if your knees hurt the culprit is pretty much guaranteed not to be the weight of the frame. (especially when you're nit picking over the weight equivalent to a bottle of water) Get something that fits and adjust the gearing until it's comfortable and your knees will be fine.


    (My Fuji Track Comp was 17.8Lbs stock, incidentally)
    I must agree to this. I had been borrowing a friends bike and last weekend, I didn't adjust the seat. Was too low and that made all the difference that my knees felt weird for a few days.

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