SquidPuppet

I'm usually pretty good at researching and sourcing just about anything. This time though, I have googled my eyes bloody and I am coming up empty.

I want a 700 x 32 tire that is a 100% treadless slick.

Schwalbe makes the Kojak (good tire) in 35mm, but for this new project I really want a 32mm.

Does it exist?

Help.............

Philasteve

I would say Soma Everwear's but they suck.

Angelis

First google result.

SquidPuppet

SquidPuppet

That is a semi slick. I want NO tread.

Scrodzilla

Sandpaper should do the trick.

RaleighSport

https://www.amazon.com/Hutchinson-Top...s=700+32+slick dunno if that helps.

SquidPuppet

If you are talking about the Schwalbes, they won't work. The carcass profile is too triangulated for a descent bike.

But don't laugh. I have made 26 inch full slicks using a vibrating sander on a set of (now discontinued because of dangerous tread) Ritchey Mobi-Bites. They were close to slick, but had three ridiculous "lips" of excess tread rings on each side. Removing those still left the full amount of surface rubber. Holding the sander at an angle caused the wheel to rotate as if it were on a lathe, and by controlling the amount of pressure applied, I was able to make them 100% true and round. Gripped like mofos.

Scrodzilla

SquidPuppet

Thanks, I found those too, but Most retailers are listing them as discontinued, they can't actually be found anywhere and Amazon has only one.

SquidPuppet

Michelin made the Dynamic Sport and it fit the bill, but it is discontinued as well.

Scrodzilla

Just get 28c ThickSlicks and pretend they say "32c" on the side.

SquidPuppet

I'm building a descent racing bike. I'm attempting to source a high quality tire with the biggest contact patch I can get. If all goes as planned, I'll be hitting speeds nearing 80mph.

But thanks for your helpful, as usual, response. Cartoon pictures and all.

Scrodzilla

I wasn't kidding. FWIW, the 28c Thickslick Urban Elite I had a while back measured close to 33mm wide when fully inflated.

hairnet

No room in frame for the 35mm Kojaks? I'd love a pair of those if it wouldn't cost me $100

What about Gran Boise tires? They do have a file tread but they're nice tires.https://www.compasscycle.com/tires_comp_700_32.html

SquidPuppet

You were serious when you said that I should pretend? OK.

I have read many people say that they measure bigger than they read. I am trying to stay away from that brand for this project.

Frame tolerance will be no problem Tall Man. Heck, I'd run 45mms if there were such a thing. Kojaks are labeled 35mm but only measure a lean 32mm wide, but are a true 35 in rolling circumference. But that's not why I don't want to use them. The Schwalbes are great on my tourist turtle bike. In fact, they are wonderful and offer great grip at the speeds I go on that bike. I can generate koo-koo lean angles when going slow speeds ~ 20mph. I suspect that they'd grip great at nutso speeds too. The problem for this new application is that their profile is triangulated. Think of a racing motorcycle at full lean. Once all they way over, you are on the biggest possible contact patch with a heavily triangulated profile, which is when it counts. But until you are at full lean, the patch is smaller than a round profile tire. I wont ever reach the lean angles (because of the speed involved) where the Kojak's profile will offer me a benefit. In fact, with the Kojaks, at 70% of max lean, I'd be on less rubber than a round tire of approx 30mms.

An informal group/club is in the early stages of organizing itself and descent races here. Unfortunately 700c was decided on as one of the technical regulations. Some of us voted 26 inch which would mean lower bikes and more rubber on the deck, but we lost.

Leukybear 

Thickslicks are your best bet I'm afraid. They're half-decent anyhow and there was a sale for them awhile back on nashbar for the version with all the flat protection bells and whistles.

Sure they're expensive, ride harshly with all that rubber, and high susceptible to irregular flat spots and squaring but skidz fo dayz. Seriously.
They have tread nonetheless and I don't think they make that wide anyhow.

jhess74

Ummm... what?? I can't even remember the last time I drove that fast.

Scrodzilla

Yeah, this thread is pretty silly.

SquidPuppet

I come from a decades long motorcycle road racing background. Anything under 150mph feels slow to me. You get numb to it after a while and always want more. I know, I know, it'll be scary as hell on a bicycle, but that's the point of this group. Kind of a bonkers group. The fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle so far has been ~50mph, so I am sure it will be intense. We'll be wearing special protective gear and helmets, not lycra.

jhess74

Intense is an understatement. Do us all a favor and have a GoPro mounted to your bike when you do this, I want to see just how insane hitting 70+ on a bike is. And be safe, dude. As much as you can be doing something like this, lol.

SquidPuppet

Plans are in the works for mutiple bikes with cameras. And, yes sir, we will be wearing serious gear. I may mount a steering damper too, to reduce the chance of the wobbles.

The first road we'll be trying out is one of a few freak roads in the area. The winters are harsh, and for reasons myself and others cannot figure out, it's billiard table smooth. Like butter smooth. Totally remote, wide and hardly traveled. 5800 foot elevation drop in a very short distance. Some of the grades feel like the go on forever in a car.

jhess74

Glad to hear cameras were planned - looking forward to seeing some videos if you get the chance to post them here. And I can't imagine a road surviving winter in that good of shape, the roads here in WI get wrecked by winter every year.

SquidPuppet

I'm kinda new to the whole winter thing. I tranplanted here just a few years ago after being born and raised in So Cal. I told a buddy who was born and raised in Buffalo NY about the road and asked him his opinion. He asked if the road was closed in winter. I told him it was in fact closed (too steep ) during winter. His response was that no snow plows hammering it was the reason it stayed smooth. That makes some sense, but it never snowed in So Cal and there were plenty of mangled roads there. Not sure. Just happy it and the others exist.

Cute Boy Horse

How do you plan on dealing with the aerodynamics issue?