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Old 07-18-14, 11:18 AM   #1
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Ingria bikes

Hey guys. I am a fixed-gear rider from Russia.

Lately I've started thinking about purchasing an aluminium track frame. I've looked through a lot of data and realised that bringing a leader or aveton from abroad can be pretty expensive (thanks to our customs service, huh).

This is when I came across a neat frame-building workshop in St. Petersburg which focuses on building their own alloy frames. They currently have two models:

Ingria Airpusher



Ingria Firestarter



So I was wandering, are those frames any good?
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Old 07-18-14, 12:35 PM   #2
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I've seen their frames before on the internet and from what I've seen, they seem to know what they're doing.
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Old 07-18-14, 03:43 PM   #3
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Honestly I think they both look sick. Never heard of them before though.
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Old 07-18-14, 04:49 PM   #4
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I checked out the Ingria site and based on the vague technical info, my first thought was that these were probably low end aluminum frames like you see on ebay for $150. But looking at the pics, they've got them dressed up with Miche cranks and other decent components, so maybe they're not so bad. Would be curious to hear from anyone who owns one. And fwiw, the Firestarter is definitely the better looking of the two.

Most importantly, welcome to the forum, Drastry!
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Old 07-18-14, 07:36 PM   #5
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I found this on LFGSS. The welds in those photos look awful. Those are from last year, so maye they've had the chance to improve since then.
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Some of those dudes are in serious denial of their bikes' "****ness"
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I found this on LFGSS. The welds in those photos look awful. Those are from last year, so maye they've had the chance to improve since then.
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Oof:

Yikes... I retract anything even remotely positive I said about them.
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That's Russian for character^
You pay extra for that.
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I remember my first weld.
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Old 07-19-14, 01:51 AM   #11
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Thanks for the invitation

About those welds.. Russian FG community is also kinda disgusted by them, but hey, they are learning (or at least I hope so).

Also I've found this:
[video=youtube;ec-KFHfljws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-KFHfljws[/video]

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I fell in love with their updated frame, but bear logo, seriously? How stereotypical is this?


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The bear logo is okay, a good artist can easily paint something in its mouth, a leg bone, car panel, Cossack sabre.

Unless the cost gets stupid, it's good to support a local industry. Russia has a long and successful record of small industries catering to sports or hobbies and in at least some, have grown from basic through to the extremely high tech (I'm thinking model aeroplane engines in particular). You may become part of something special.
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i wonder what rims they are using for their box section wheels.
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The bear logo is okay, a good artist can easily paint something in its mouth, a leg bone, car panel, Cossack sabre.

Unless the cost gets stupid, it's good to support a local industry. Russia has a long and successful record of small industries catering to sports or hobbies and in at least some, have grown from basic through to the extremely high tech (I'm thinking model aeroplane engines in particular). You may become part of something special.
This is actually a good point!
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Also agree with Europa. But why is the lettering on the frame not in Cyrillic?
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but bear logo, seriously? How stereotypical is this?
I don't have anything against the bear logo.
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Also agree with Europa. But why is the lettering on the frame not in Cyrillic?
That would look pretty cool. I'd guess they went with English for broader appeal - if they want to expand outside of Russia, especially if they have an eye on the US market, English is probably the more safe/neutral choice. No disrespect to Russia, Drastry, just trying to think like a profit-minded business guy.

/uneducated speculation.
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That would look pretty cool. I'd guess they went with English for broader appeal - if they want to expand outside of Russia, especially if they have an eye on the US market, English is probably the more safe/neutral choice. No disrespect to Russia, Drastry, just trying to think like a profit-minded business guy.

/uneducated speculation.
I'm pretty sure they would oblige with no hesitance if you wanted it to be in cryillic considering they offer it.
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I'm pretty sure they would oblige with no hesitance if you wanted it to be in cryillic considering they offer it.
Well, then I was correct to call it uneducated speculation.
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Also agree with Europa. But why is the lettering on the frame not in Cyrillic?


I would totally go for a cyrillic inscription.
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I would totally go for a cyrillic inscription.
I'd say that a cyrillic inscription is hot; very cool.
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OT but just in case anyone cares ~

so i just picked up the frame from customs of almost one year of waiting. had to pay 140€ on top of the 500€ (+70€ shipping), frame came with a LOT of damages in the paint. overall i'm grateful that the wait is over but im still very disappointed in the paintjob, the handling and build quality. the paint is often rough, theres dust/dirt under the paint and the welding is some of the worst i have ever seen and it makes the tubing feel bumpy as ****.

2/10 wouldn't recommend
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I fell in love with their updated frame, but bear logo, seriously? How stereotypical is this?

In the middle photo there, is that a gusset under the down tube at the head tube?
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yes

This frame was inspired by great track frames from Yuri Petrovich Samoylov. It has a unique geometry giving the shortest clearance between the frame and the front 700c wheel, which still allows to barspin.



This is our most aggressive sprinter frame with tight wheelbase. Frame has head tube/down tube, down tube/seat tube and chainstay gussets to increase buckling capacity.




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Back from the dead, wondering if there's been any new info on these bikes?

For the price, they look like a killer frame, and I'm able to get better prices in shipping than the general public to and from overseas, so I'm curious about maybe picking up an Airpusher.

Anyone around here have or seen one up close lately?
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