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Old 07-20-14, 09:19 AM   #1
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Anybody know anything about this Murphy Cycles 'Marty' frame (lugged steel)?

Trying to find out if this is a decent frame. http://murphycycles.com/products/marty

I'm in the market for a steel lugged frame in this price range, and this one looks pretty nice in the pics, but I'm hesitant because all I know about this seller is what he says on his site. I also know he used to sell on ebay under the name Nomco (Neil O. Murphy) with mixed reviews. There's an old thread on here from a few years back where somebody claims that Murphy picked up a bunch of cheap frames and did crappy powdercoats on them to resell on ebay. That worries me, but the price is right, so I'm tempted. Anybody have any experience with or thoughts on these frames?

Thanks for your help!

Ebay link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MARTY-MURPHY...item3cde2e66bd
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Old 07-20-14, 04:26 PM   #2
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After nearly 2 minutes of intense googling, this was the best I could find: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aag/main/19...A3C8G6WAJGPCHC

Three reviews, all positive regarding quality. I'd be leery since info is so scarce.
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Old 08-26-14, 11:17 AM   #3
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I will answer any questions you have.
I manage everything including design, materials, prices, shipping, & general customer service information. I ride what I promote. I also personally organize the powdercoat process. I look forward to hearing from you.

I don't look at the posts very often & sometimes feel disappointed at the poor information that circulates.

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It's not a real Maxway frame but those dropouts are a pretty good ripoff.
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Its not from Maxway. It is Founderland unbranded double butted Reynolds spec steel & hand brazed in a small custom job shop. Powdercoated in USA. Dropouts & fork crown are pro level investment cast. Rear adjusters are now included. Lug work is very fine & tolerances are excellent. Now available in Gloss Black. Threadless forks & full builds available. Rides very well on the street considering the aggressive geometry. Limited Edition.
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I will answer any questions you have.
I manage everything including design, materials, prices, shipping, & general customer service information. I ride what I promote. I also personally organize the powdercoat process. I look forward to hearing from you.

I don't look at the posts very often & sometimes feel disappointed at the poor information that circulates.
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Its not from Maxway. It is Founderland unbranded double butted Reynolds spec steel & hand brazed in a small custom job shop. Powdercoated in USA. Dropouts & fork crown are pro level investment cast. Rear adjusters are now included. Lug work is very fine & tolerances are excellent. Now available in Gloss Black. Threadless forks & full builds available. Rides very well on the street considering the aggressive geometry. Limited Edition.
Perhaps you'll have better luck if you don't converse with people like a programmed robot.
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Old 08-28-14, 12:30 PM   #8
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I am not sure what you mean. If by robot you suggest I could be less formal, Ok, I accept that. I prefer accuracy over style. If by better luck you mean I could find better information on the forums, I doubt it.
To each is own. I seek what is real. Words can be precise, misleading, or meaningless. Humor is great, but for me bicycles are serious fun.
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Old 08-28-14, 01:11 PM   #9
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I don't look at the posts very often...
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I am not sure what you mean. If by robot you suggest I could be less formal, Ok, I accept that. I prefer accuracy over style. If by better luck you mean I could find better information on the forums, I doubt it.
To each is own. I seek what is real. Words can be precise, misleading, or meaningless. Humor is great, but for me bicycles are serious fun.
You must be a blast at parties.
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You must be a blast at parties.

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If by better luck you mean I could find better information on the forums, I doubt it.
Huh? Two days ago you said you managed everything about the bike, now you're saying you doubt you could find better information on the forums about it...why would you be looking for more information if you know everything about the bike. Makes me wonder if you and the original poster share the same IP address.
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I am not sure what you mean. If by robot you suggest I could be less formal, Ok, I accept that. I prefer accuracy over style. If by better luck you mean I could find better information on the forums, I doubt it.
To each is own. I seek what is real. Words can be precise, misleading, or meaningless. Humor is great, but for me bicycles are serious fun.

He probably means you sound like a spambot. Your previous post reads like ad-copy. Badly written ad-copy.

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Its not from Maxway. It is Founderland unbranded double butted Reynolds spec steel
So, Taiwaenese, not-Reynolds steel. Not necessarily bad, but it doesn't come across as honesty.

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& hand brazed in a small custom job shop.
As in custom geometries, or just small-batch builds if you supply the specs?

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Powdercoated in USA.
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Dropouts & fork crown are pro level investment cast.
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Rear adjusters are now included.
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Lug work is very fine & tolerances are excellent.
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Now available in Gloss Black. Threadless forks & full builds available.
I didn't see anything on the Amazon store front linked above. :-/

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Rides very well on the street considering the aggressive geometry. Limited Edition.
Do you have a geometry chart? Your potential customers might like to see one.
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He probably means you sound like a spambot.
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Geometry is on the website and in other listings, see the OP. Sold on Amazon years ago, a lot of hassle, now prefer my site & the bay. By pro level I mean not forged or spot welded, low level, but traditional, original style full quality investment cast lugs. Dropouts / rear fork is a different company, lugs are long shen. Yes, custom geometry, I suppose it is small batch builds, seems like a lot to me, usually 100 at a time. the Marty is clearly focused on classic models and similar to Bianchi Pista. Sigh, no, not a spambot, Ok, so I am not a great writer, but I try.

About the tubesets. Each of my models use the same 4130 double butted type material, each with different butting, diameters, thickness, length...none are shaped, always round, as I do not believe in anything but the best, original, fully round, still the strongest. (stiff in all directions) It is 100% Taiwan, but the specification is Reynolds. The same quality and configuration as 520, but withouth the sticker. I don't believe in logos or brands, or stickers, but the reference makes people more comfortable. The geometry I use usually starts with a 56 or 58 model and is modified slightly for each size larger and smaller. I sell a lot of larger road fixed type frames, 62 & 64. Top tubes change with each size. The longer wheelbase on the Himself & Seamus models mean a very stable ride, but the angles make it still sporty. Frames come ready to build with clean threads & tube surfaces.
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I don't think this guy speaks english, must be a translation.

Interestingly the site only partially loads for me. Starts trying to pull from pinterest and then freezes.
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Did any of the mods check to see if bryan8 and okckida are sock puppets? I mean okckida is obviously from okc and where are Murphy bikes from?
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Did any of the mods check to see if bryan8 and okckida are sock puppets? I mean okckida is obviously from okc and where are Murphy bikes from?
You can ask them directly using the report button, otherwise you have to hope Leuky saw your post.
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Did any of the mods check to see if bryan8 and okckida are sock puppets? I mean okckida is obviously from okc and where are Murphy bikes from?
This was my thinking as well. Of course okckida says his location is "Eugene, OR" but a user can put in anything for their location. Murphy Cycles ebay page says the item ships from Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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You bikeforum nannies ruined the party. The guy (bryan8) just explained to you in well informative posts half of the manufacturing process and gave better details about the frameset. I assume you want a user review and more to assurance all the parts fit correctly but damn, considering op being a shill? Just buy one and build it up
Ummm... what party was ruined? Sketchy unknown frameset was shown to be... sketchy. And only backed by one person, who spouted what sounded like ad copy. Sorry if that bugs you, but I think it's a legit reaction.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, but those Marty frames are super ugly. The welds look weird and the paint looks cheap. All of the welded on crap on that "road" frame seem poorly done. Maybe they have terrible photos, but based on the paint and welds alone, I wouldn't buy one. Looks like a rattle can job with semigloss paint on a frame that wasn't properly taped and primed.

I'd rather buy a Kilo Frame from Bike Island.
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Those "welds" are called lugs, it's how we built frames in the before-time.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, but those Marty frames are super ugly. The welds look weird and the paint looks cheap. All of the welded on crap on that "road" frame seem poorly done. Maybe they have terrible photos, but based on the paint and welds alone, I wouldn't buy one. Looks like a rattle can job with semigloss paint on a frame that wasn't properly taped and primed.

I'd rather buy a Kilo Frame from Bike Island.
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Those "welds" are called lugs, it's how we built frames in the before-time.
Call them whatever you want, they're still ugly. Maybe they just need a different paint or something, but they just don't look super great in my opinion. YMMV
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