Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Hubs

  1. #1
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Hubs

    I just stripped my rear hub. This is on my first set of wheels I bought about 4 months ago, a cheap set of origin 8s. Luckily I can use the other side of the hub for the time being, but I want to get a new one as I don't really trust it now and I don't use brakes. What would you guys recommend as a reliable hub that isn't ridiculously expensive?

  2. #2
    Veteran Bastard Scrodzilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    My Bikes
    EAI Bare Knuckle / Leader 725 / 1975 Raleigh Professional Track
    Posts
    23,908
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Hubs get stripped due to user error. Learn how to properly install a cog & lockring and it most likely won't matter what hub you have.

  3. #3
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Hubs get stripped due to user error. Learn how to properly install a cog & lockring and it most likely won't matter what hub you have.
    Ok, so make sure hub is clean. Apply grease to threads of cog and lockring. Tighten cog with chain whip. Tighten lock ring with lockring wrench tight as hell. What am I missing here?

  4. #4
    Senior Member hockeyteeth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Gainesville, Florida
    Posts
    1,677
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Did you install the cog yourself? If so, you probably didn't get the cog and/or lockring tight enough. Origin8 hubs are rebranded Formulas. I have owned one and found it to be of good quality. I have to agree with Scrod on this one. You could try rotafixing the cog on the other side (although it's a bit overkill): Fixed Gear Blog: Fixing A Cog Without Tools? The ROTAFIXA Method

  5. #5
    Newbie
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    3
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Cog and lockring were installed by LBS. I ordered the parts through them and they insisted that they did so. How often do you recommend to check/ tighten the lockring? I have not done so since it was purchased so I am assuming this would be the culprit. I assumed that the lockring would remain tight as resisting and skidding apply counterclockwise pressure.

  6. #6
    Senior Member hockeyteeth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Gainesville, Florida
    Posts
    1,677
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Guaranteed they did not adequately tighten the cog and lockring. Few people seem to get this right, amazingly enough. Go back to them and tell them the situation. They should hopefully make it right with you somehow. Don't be an accusatory dick, just explain to them that your hub stripped and they were the ones to install the cog and lockring.

    You shouldn't have to check the cog and lockring periodically. Install them tight and right the first time and you will never have to be concerned.

  7. #7
    THE STUFFED Leukybear's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Sandy Eggo, CA
    My Bikes
    Sworks Venge; Kona Paddywagon; Ibis Mojo SL-R
    Posts
    10,070
    Mentioned
    6 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyteeth View Post
    You shouldn't have to check the cog and lockring periodically. Install them tight and right the first time and you will never have to be concerned.
    Actually you should check it once more after initial installation after the first official longer ride and tighten the lockring as needed.
    That is because tension and torque exerted by the chain while pedaling will initially settle the cog more than any chainwhip will.

    You'll be golden after that until your next cog swap in which case rinse and repeat.

  8. #8
    Veteran Bastard Scrodzilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    My Bikes
    EAI Bare Knuckle / Leader 725 / 1975 Raleigh Professional Track
    Posts
    23,908
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    It always amazes me that fixed gear bikes are the most simple thing ever from a mechanical standpoint, yet so many people who ride them know nothing about how they work.

  9. #9
    Grumpy Old Bugga europa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
    My Bikes
    Europa, Hillbrick, Road Chief, Repco Superlite (Ol' Rusty)
    Posts
    2,923
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jnep View Post
    Cog and lockring were installed by LBS. I ordered the parts through them and they insisted that they did so..
    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyteeth View Post
    Guaranteed they did not adequately tighten the cog and lockring.
    Yup, I'm with hockeyteeth. The mechanic in the shop made all the noises but stuffed up. The Origin8 is a good hub, feel happy buying another one. Give the bike shop a chance to do the right thing, after all, they'll know the true story and you're a customer who they may get more money from ... if they look after you.
    I had a good bike ... so I FIXED it

  10. #10
    Senior Member Germany_chris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Southern Germany
    Posts
    612
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Brakes are always a positive step forward
    I'm an angry angst ridden anarcho-punk socialist you should just generally disregard my posts--Germany_chris

  11. #11
    The Empire forges on... ThimbleSmash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    NSB,Florida
    My Bikes
    SE PK Ripper FG,Trek Classic Steel, Free Spirit FG, Raleigh Pointe, Centurion Sport DLX
    Posts
    262
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jnep View Post
    Tighten lock ring with lockring wrench tight as hell. What am I missing here?
    You don't have to summon the strength of a gorilla to tighten a lockring. Having it firmly tightened by hand is all that is needed.
    Look at me, I'm Mr. Meeseeks!
    PedalRoom

  12. #12
    Veteran Racer TejanoTrackie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
    My Bikes
    28 frames + 73 wheels
    Posts
    7,411
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThimbleSmash View Post
    You don't have to summon the strength of a gorilla to tighten a lockring. Having it firmly tightened by hand is all that is needed.
    When are people going to realize that it's the cog that needs to be very tight, not the lockring. The lockring just needs to be tight enough so that it doesn't loosen on its own. The lockring has far fewer threads than the cog, and is not meant to be tightened nearly as much as the cog or you risk stripping its hub threads.
    Last edited by TejanoTrackie; 07-31-14 at 10:06 AM.
    What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

  13. #13
    Veteran Racer TejanoTrackie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
    My Bikes
    28 frames + 73 wheels
    Posts
    7,411
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by jnep View Post
    Cog and lockring were installed by LBS. I ordered the parts through them and they insisted that they did so. How often do you recommend to check/ tighten the lockring? I have not done so since it was purchased so I am assuming this would be the culprit. I assumed that the lockring would remain tight as resisting and skidding apply counterclockwise pressure.
    Incorrect. The real culprit is that the cog wasn't sufficiently tightened in the first place. As soon as you pedal forward, the cog screws clockwise and separates from the lockring causing it to become loose. The cog must be tightened properly before the lockring is retightened.

    You need to learn to do this yourself and avoid having mechanical work done on your bike at your incompetent lbs.
    What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

  14. #14
    Senior Member JeremyLC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Arlington, TX
    My Bikes
    2008 Surly Cross Check, 2010 Fuji Track Comp
    Posts
    600
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by ThimbleSmash View Post
    You don't have to summon the strength of a gorilla to tighten a lockring. Having it firmly tightened by hand is all that is needed.

    How about the strength of the bear?


  15. #15
    Veteran Racer TejanoTrackie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
    My Bikes
    28 frames + 73 wheels
    Posts
    7,411
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    It always amazes me that fixed gear bikes are the most simple thing ever from a mechanical standpoint, yet so many people who ride them know nothing about how they work.
    Even more amazing is how many shop "mechanics" are clueless when it comes to proper installation of a fixed cog and lockring.
    What, Me Worry? - Alfred E. Neuman

    Quote Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

  16. #16
    Veteran Bastard Scrodzilla's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    My Bikes
    EAI Bare Knuckle / Leader 725 / 1975 Raleigh Professional Track
    Posts
    23,908
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)
    Tagged
    2 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Even more amazing is how many shop "mechanics" are clueless when it comes to proper installation of a fixed cog and lockring.
    Seriously!

  17. #17
    The Empire forges on... ThimbleSmash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    NSB,Florida
    My Bikes
    SE PK Ripper FG,Trek Classic Steel, Free Spirit FG, Raleigh Pointe, Centurion Sport DLX
    Posts
    262
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyLC View Post
    How about the strength of the bear?

    As long as it is not that of a grizzly or equivalent.
    Look at me, I'm Mr. Meeseeks!
    PedalRoom

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •