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    130 or 144BCD Cranks for Pake Rum Runner?

    Hey all,

    Been reading the forum for a while, and learning a lot. I'm in the planning stages for building up a Rum Runner. However, I noticed that the Pake crankset is 130 BCD. I wonder if anyone can tell me if this frame has problems running 144BCD cranks. (i.e., Will the 144BCD cranks rub the chainstays, require longer BB spindle, cause chain alignment problems?)

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by agalmata View Post
    Been reading the forum for a while, and learning a lot. I'm in the planning stages for building up a Rum Runner. However, I noticed that the Pake crankset is 130 BCD. I wonder if anyone can tell me if this frame has problems running 144BCD cranks. (i.e., Will the 144BCD cranks rub the chainstays, require longer BB spindle, cause chain alignment problems?)!
    No. The bcd of the crank has absolutely nothing to do with BB spindle length or type, chainstay clearance, chain line etc. You just need to match the BB to the particular brand and model of crankset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    No. The bcd of the crank has absolutely nothing to do with BB spindle length or type, chainstay clearance etc.
    Right. I just read that some frames have trouble accepting 144BCD cranks bg/c they were built for 130. Since Pake sells 130BCD cranks, I didn't know if anyone has experienced rubbing with a 144. (The stuff about longer spindle length was more related to misguided efforts to correct this...if it's even a problem.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by agalmata View Post
    Right. I just read that some frames have trouble accepting 144BCD cranks bg/c they were built for 130. Since Pake sells 130BCD cranks, I didn't know if anyone has experienced rubbing with a 144. (The stuff about longer spindle length was more related to misguided efforts to correct this...if it's even a problem.)
    Again, BCD has absolutely nothing to do with this. The problem might be that a particular crankset such as Omniums don't work, but this is a problem with their design, and not because they just happen to have a 144 bcd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Again, BCD has absolutely nothing to do with this. The problem might be that a particular crankset such as Omniums don't work, but this is a problem with their design, and not because they just happen to have a 144 bcd.
    Got it. Thanks. The worry here was that longer spider arms on the 144 might rub the chainstay if the frame is designed only for 130.

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    I don't think this will be a problem.

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    ^ That's a French 75, not a Rum Runner.

    However, this whole thread is extremely stupid. I'm actually dumber having read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    ^ That's a French 75, not a Rum Runner.
    Yeah, I wasn't paying attention, but I know there are Rum Runners in that thread with 144 bcd cranks.
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    Nope. Everyone knows The Rum Runner was specifically made for 130 bcd cranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Nope. Everyone knows The Rum Runner was specifically made for 130 bcd cranks.
    Yeah, I live under a rock and didn't get the memo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Nope. Everyone knows The Rum Runner was specifically made for 130 bcd cranks.
    So my question is not legitimate? Is it not true that some 144BCD cranks rub chainstays? -- This is what I heard. That's why I asked.

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    Dude. I was joking.

    I honestly can't even begin to explain to you how ridiculous what you're saying is without getting myself kicked off the forum.
    Last edited by Scrodzilla; 08-07-14 at 06:33 PM.

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    TejanoTrackie, I just want to thank you for clearing things up for me.

    Cheers everyone.

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    Don't trust TT either. He lives under a rock.

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    Dudes and Dudettes, For the record, this is the post I read on another forum that prompted the question: bottom bracket issues - Page 2

    Specifically, the line that reads: "My wife rides an Allegro Onya frame which comes off the shelf with, and I guess is built for, a really small BCD crankset -- ie a smaller spider. So with the 144 BCD miche cranks the spider is larger and comes closer to the chainstay as the stay angles out from the bottom bracket shell."

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    Yup, that doesn't make any amount of sense either.

    You do realize that not all cranksets having a certain bcd are exactly the same, right? Some may be thicker than others. Some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Yup, that doesn't make any amount of sense either.

    You do realize that not all cranksets having a certain bcd are exactly the same, right? Some may be thicker than others. Some girls mothers are bigger than other girls mothers.
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    Glad I can provide your entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agalmata View Post
    Glad I can provide your entertainment.
    Your lack of understanding, and Scrods pretty funny too
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    Just thought I'd liven up the place.

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    TopHatMonkey is giving you a good run for your money.

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    First time on Internet. Use handrails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agalmata View Post
    Use handrails.
    But what diameter are the handrails? Your hand may not wrap around the rail properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
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