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    Frame Question

    Please before you start with search I have looked multiple times, and I have failed to find any current threads regarding this questions.

    So I am looking for a frame with 1 1/8 head tube, steel ideally but aluminum would be ok, able to handle 33-35 tires, and more aggressive geometry.

    I have looked at surely, while meets some of those likes, it is supper heavy. I would be using this as a replacement to my current primary bike as I living 90% car free tuning and maintaince on geared bike is frustrating.

    My initial though was one of the kilo stripped, however I was looking for the 1 1/8 head tube.

    Thanks for any frame ideas.
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    Wabi ain't aggressive yo.

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    Fyxation east side? How light are you looking for though?

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    the pake rum runner is now 1 1/8 and steel with a semi aggresive geo.

    oh and spicer does custome frames for really cheap and has a select number of frames that you can purchase without going custome.
    http://www.spicercycles.com/
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    I wouldn't be too worried about frame weight on a SS/FG, nor would I be too concerned about the headtube diameter.

    As a car replacement, I would not be interested in a track bike unless your idea of groceries is a candy bar and a pint of Kentucky Tavern. Aggressive geometry and 30-35c tires don't belong in the same sentence.

    Figure out what you want the bike to be used for, then find the bikes that will fit the bill.

    btw, where did you go to school?

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    I'm too lazy to look up if it's 1 1/8 but I'd check out the on one pompino.

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    Why aggressive geometry and big tires?

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    Let me get this straight: you want aggressive geometry, yet you want 35mm tires. Are you hoping to build up a fat tire pursuit bike?
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    surly steam roller is the only thing i can think of that almost hits your mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by agalmata View Post
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    Won't accept big tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    Why aggressive geometry and big tires?
    Why not? Track geo is fun and big tires give an awesome ride.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wspsux View Post
    surly steam roller is the only thing i can think of that almost hits your mark
    All City Big Block has tighter geo and will easily fit 32c in front and rear. You may be able to squeeze 35c if your rear wheel isn't slammed too far forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Why not? Track geo is fun and big tires give an awesome ride.
    The comparative advantages of each somewhat cancel each other out so I was curious. There is this weird misinformation on the web of people going on about how big tires are actually faster so I was wondering if that was driving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    The comparative advantages of each somewhat cancel each other out so I was curious.
    Today I learned that tire size changes a frame's geometry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    Today I learned that tire size changes a frame's geometry.
    Well you didn't learn it from me because I didn't say anything remotely like that.

    Btw, 32s fit on my FTP if you put the rear back far enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    The comparative advantages of each somewhat cancel each other out so I was curious. There is this weird misinformation on the web of people going on about how big tires are actually faster so I was wondering if that was driving it.
    bigger wheel diameter gives better angle of attack, which allows you to roll over things easier. But from 23 to 35... meh. Negligible.

    If they're talking about gearing, the same ration will make you faster with a big wheel, but again, negligible at the sizes discussed.
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    If your rim width matches your tire width, the result is a smoother transition from tire to rim and thus it's more aerodynamic. Enough so the pros are doing it. So naturally the roadies are all over it. You can run your tire pressure a bit lower, too. It gives you better feel in the turns, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedOne513 View Post
    So I am looking for a frame with 1 1/8 head tube, steal ideally...
    Don't steal bikes, bro.

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    To answer some of the questions going on.

    Why aggressive geometry but wide tires. I live in an area where 1-9 inches of snow can happen. Last year while commuting on my CAAD that can only run 28 max, there where a few times I wanted wider tires or the ability to run ice tires.

    As mentioned above I am already living 90% car free on a CAAD8. I enjoy the riding position and feel of a more aggressive geometry, that is why I am looking for it

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    I ride both a Cannondale CAAD 8 as well as a Surly Steamroller. I think you would do well with a Steamroller or Scrod's suggestion of an All City Big Block. Get the Surly if you want to run tires bigger than 32.

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    Steamroller?

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