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Old 08-15-14, 11:26 AM   #1
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Wheel build questions - H plus son Archetype

I'm currently looking into building a new wheelset using H plus son Archetype rims. I would lace to those some Velocity Fixed/fixed high flange hubs using sapim laser spokes. That wheelset will mostly be used in the city (very rough roads). I also have a Halo aero track wheelset that i love (which is on my fast bike) and a ****ty wheelset which im looking to change with this on my commuter.
Does it sound like an smart/appropriate build??
If you guys have suggestions about hubs and spoke selection please share (i would realy want archetype rims though) Im also trying not to bust the wallet.... but im open to suggestions
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Old 08-15-14, 11:52 AM   #2
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Velocity hubs are just re-branded Formulas. Why not just buy a pre-built set of Archetypes/Formulas on Velomine?
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Old 08-15-14, 11:58 AM   #3
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thats a very appealing alternative! But the black rims are sold out...
would halo hubs be worth it? or halo aero track is too similar to archetype ?
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Ask them when they will have them in stock. I emailed them about tb14's and they said about 3 weeks and they put me on their email list.
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I just sent them the email. i hope it's going to be soon... realy would like to have them before season ends...
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I waited a long time for the black Archetypes to come in a few months ago but I love them. Seems like they must get a container from somewhere and then everyone sells out of them at the same time and you have to wait another month. They disappeared from local shops, mail order and ebay all at once and I kicked myself for not buying them the week before.

Anyway, laced them to some new old stock Suzue Pro Maxes. Really liking them.
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Archetypes are currently plentiful in the US.

Velomine's wheelsets are machine built by Wheel Master in Miami, who currently have a very good stock of Archetype rims on hand.
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Why not just have this guy ^ build you some with Novatec hubs.

That's what I'm leaning towards currently.

Archetypes seem like a common rim these days, but for the price, weight and looks I can't find anything I like as much yet.
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I always had a true love for the mavic open pro, which velomine sell 300 rather then 330 for the archetype
(same hub and spokes). Open pro are a little lighter rims. Which one would be the most sturdy? Does any of these stand out in build quality?
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Velocity Aeros are pretty much the same thing. I ride them and really don't see a difference
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except they're 100g heavier per rim and have crappy qc since being moved to the US.
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if my wheels were any lighter, I'd think there would be a problem. They are crazy light. Plus, I'm not a weight weenie so that doesn't matter.
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Check out the roadie forum for a gajillion threads on wheelsets.

A few hundred grams on a wheelset is not going to make much of a difference. More expensive tires and drinking fewer beers will have a greater effect.

Don't over think it.

Somebody like psimet.com will build you whatever you want or recommend what will work for you for less money.
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