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    Black or gray track wheels machined for brakes

    Hi all, what is a good (where good means durable, not necessarily lightweight) non-aero box section track rim or wheel that is machined for brakes AND (this is the important part) whose paint or anondization will hold up under braking? I've been using an H plus son TB14 wheelset (black) for a few months now, and while they've been fine (and sexy, initially), the paint on what was originally the black braking surface has now worn away completely to reveal the silver that is underneath Kind of ugly IMO. I am wondering if there is ANY black or gray track wheel that will stand up to braking and not have the paint or ano fail as dramatically as it did on my wheels, or if this is bound to happen on ANY black/gray wheel that sees braking action?

    For example, would I have had better luck with the H plus son TB14 hard-anondized? Or maybe the Mavic Open Pro? Etc. etc.
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    It all wears eventually, can't be avoided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GENESTARWIND View Post
    It all wears eventually, can't be avoided.
    Except carbon.

    But you'll need to run special brake pads which are a bit more pricey.

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    You're not going to find an anodized aluminum rim with a magical finish that won't wear off when using a brake. Get over it and ride your bike.

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    By definition, a track wheel does not require a brake track and therefore may have anodized or painted sidewalls that will wear off when used with a rim brake. Either live with the wear, or use a road rim that has been machined to remove the anodizing or paint in a uniform manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
    By definition, a track wheel does not require a brake track and therefore may have anodized or painted sidewalls that will wear off when used with a rim brake. Either live with the wear, or use a road rim that has been machined to remove the anodizing or paint in a uniform manner.
    Actually as I'm sure you are aware, many box road rims in the past were dark anodized, which wore down over time with brake usage. Also, they did not have machined brake tracks, as is common nowadays.
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    You could run a disc brake and avoid the issue entirely...
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    I highly doubt he'd be willing to use a fork with disc mounts on his sick fixie whip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    I highly doubt he'd be willing to use a fork with disc mounts on his sick fixie whip.
    I don't know what a sick fixie whip is, but it's true- I wouldn't do anything as drastic as using a disc brake.

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    Yea I'm dreading the fade of my sexy tb14s

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    Experienced this on my Felt. Beautiful black wheels and the front was machined for a brake and I added a front brake. Everything was fine until one day I went to wipe the wheel down and the black literally wiped off. I had been using the brake quite a bit I guess and until it got wet, it stayed nice and black. Once it got wet and I wiped it, there was no going back. I am definitely considering a set of carbon wheels for it, and the more expensive brake pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 View Post
    Experienced this on my Felt. Beautiful black wheels and the front was machined for a brake and I added a front brake. Everything was fine until one day I went to wipe the wheel down and the black literally wiped off. I had been using the brake quite a bit I guess and until it got wet, it stayed nice and black. Once it got wet and I wiped it, there was no going back.
    This describes exactly what happened to me
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    Interesting, thanks. If they made a box section, non-aero rim, I'd buy it.
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    I asked this over in the c&v, the responses were all discontinued Mavic Ceramic ops (from certain years).

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    I have a source for NOS Ceramic Open Pros but they're pretty pricey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattoftheRocks View Post
    I asked this over in the c&v, the responses were all discontinued Mavic Ceramic ops (from certain years).
    I have a set from the early 2000's pulled off a 'nago that had the brake surface worn away pretty bad; if only I was at the same place they were, I would be able to take a picture of them.
    At first I wanted to clip off the campy hubs but I decided that the wear added character.

    I personally don't mind brake wear on rims, it's a sign that the bike gets ridden and loved. And we all know that's the best kind of bike.

    Speaking of durable ceramic finishes, the early 90's cannondale roadie I recently bought has a pair of matrix usa iso rims that have a ceramic finish that held up remarkably despite the age and amount of miles on the bike (it was an enthusiast model).


    There's ways to preserve a ceramic finish too.
    For starters don't ride in wet conditions. The water acts with the pads and the brake surface to essentially wet sand the rim every time you brake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leukybear View Post
    For starters don't ride in wet conditions.
    Easy for you to say, Sandy Eggo
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    Quote Originally Posted by leegf View Post
    Easy for you to say, Sandy Eggo
    I know rite!

    There was this mega storm that closed schools all over the bay area early this week and we were expected to bear it this weekend as it blew south.
    Low and behold it was warm, sunny, and I rode both days with none of it in sight after brief showers on Friday.

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    I don't ride in the rain. People in vegas are stupid and don't know how to drive in the rain. There are always multiple car accidents when it rains, I don't want to get run over.
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    Wear on the brake tracks is all part of riding. People that wonder how much riding you do always check out the brake wear on the rims.

    Just like Harley Davidson riders always buy used, beat up leather jackets before they go out in public. New leather jackets are for lawyers and accountants that ride on weekends.

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