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    Buying my next Tires. Need some perspective

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    The Bikes I am riding are an SE Lager and a 30# Schwinn

    I know there is no perfect tire.
    My only experience is with super cheap 700x23 and with ThickSlick Sport 700x28.

    Went for a longer/harder ride with the Schwinn/700x23 and it was a drag.
    Going 25mph+ and hitting a rough patch of pavement was no fun.
    I had a nice stretch or rough pavement next to the river that was all bumpy....not very relaxing
    And this might just be my lack of experience, but the skinny tires were a little scary on the rough roads.

    Then a couple days ago I just put the SE wheels/ThickSlicks on the Schwinn.
    Immediately noticed the weight difference (though the SE Wheels might be heavier too)
    They felt kind of 'sticky' when starting from a dead stop.
    But of course WAY smoother and I didn't have that uneasy feeling that I was going to blow a tire.
    Was able to really dig in. Fun.
    Accidentally banged a curb and didn't wreck. Would have messed up my wheels if I had the 23's.

    My LOCAL LBS suggested Serfas Seca which I have read not-so-good things about. But their price there is $38.
    My slightly less LBS has GatorSkins which I know are highly regarded. Their price there is $55 (yikes).
    I don't know if I like my local stores enough to pay $15-$20 extra per tire....we'll see.

    I had pretty much narrowed down my choices to TourGuard, ThickSlick Urban Elite and Gatorskins.
    I probably can't go WRONG with any of those can I?
    Will I just find out what I like as I go?
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    You should add the Panaracer RiBMo to your list >>> Panaracer RibMo PT tire | Retrogression
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    I'd look into the panaracer tservs also, they are a good mix between flat resistant and smooth riding.

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    +1 for 28c RibMos if you're wanting bulletproof tires that absorb some bumps.

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    Kenda Koncept (700x23) - came with my stock Wabi. Used it for 2 months and accidentally ran through some broken ceramic and other broken glass. No flat. At $16, it is decent for me.

    Pasela PT - replaced my Kenda just cause. Felt a difference in that it seemed like it was faster and it didn't feel like i had to drag from a stop. I had a bad luck and a tiny wire punctured the inner part of the tire and got a flat. I wouldn't blame it on the tire being weak it really was just bad luck. I only ride on the pavement nothing off-road or anything like that. As for the side wall being weak, I don't skid and so far no problems. My tire pressure is 110 psi which is 10 psi less than the recommended maximum psi and I do feel the the small humps on the road but I just raise my ass off the saddle.

    I read somewhere that a reduced tire pressure will give a more comfortable ride but it might increase the risk of having a flat. The tire pressure might also depend on the weight of the rider.



    If I had extra money I would try out the RibMo

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    I'm a gatorskin guy but in my current FTP build I decided to go with Vittoria Randonneur Tires from Scrod -- I really like them so far!
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    Gatorskins here as well and I have only had one f due to me running directly through broken glass that I did not see. Currently running 23's and really liking it so far.

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    Cheap, light, flat resistant. Pick 2.

    Panaracer Paselas are a nice compromise with good ride, good flat resistance and low price. Personally, I buy tires online and won't pay more than $35/tire for my fixed gear. Currently have some of the Panaracer T-Serve Messengers which are all black Paselas as far as I can tell.

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    Panaracers ftw! Ribmos, paselas, t-serves are all nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hairnet View Post
    Panaracers ftw! Ribmos, paselas, t-serves are all nice.
    paselas are my favorite
    ribmos are "sporty" yet "beefy" at the same time.

    everwears are nice too and made by panaracer aka panasonic

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    I liked my Panaracer RibMo PTs, but ran into some bad luck with some gnarly tears and gashes. Decided to see what all the hub-bub was regarding Gatorskins. They're pretty nice. Light and supple, which gives you a very nice feel of the road - a very connected feeling. So far so good.

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    Gave gatorskins a year or so.
    Tried and quickly killed a set of thickslicks.
    My lbs pushe d me on 28mm michelin dynamic sports at ~$30 for the set. Very few punctures (none if I do regular "grooming"), very smooth and quick. If they were the same price as the gators, I'd still choose the mds.

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    Pasela PT FTW.

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    Thanks
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    Tires are always a trade off between comfort / handling / speed / durability. Obviously, how you ride and what's important to you inform your choices. Where I live, pavement resembles off-road conditions, so I always opt for wide tires at the expense of speed. The benefits are few flats, less chance of sticking the wheel in a crack or pothole, and comfort over the rough spots.

    Since I don't ride but for fun & exercise, and because I'm a Clyde, these choices fit me fine. You, Mr. @Justsomedude, obviously care somewhat more about performance. My choices of tire brands (Continental, Michelin) may not be for you, although I think they do make some fine tires. Best of luck & happy shopping!

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    i have Durano DD - Schwalbe Professional Bike Tires after using 23" i ran into the same problem. hitting pot holes or grids in the road getting pinch punctures, its a real pain. i switched to 25" (the roads are very bumpy, so for more comfort) had these on my bike for a while and they're really really good. ive hit pot holes and grids and not had a single flat yet.
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    I'm going to give the Ribmo 28's a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justsomedude View Post
    I'm going to give the Ribmo 28's a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dcv View Post
    I'd like to think i have as much money as brains.

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    Late to the discussion, but I would give a vote for Schwalbe Marathon Plus. They are a bit heavy because of the flat protection and tread profile but are nearly puncture-proof and wear very slowly. Great for a townie, especially a heavier one like your Schwinn.

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    +1 on Gatorskins. The last problem I had was a tube issue where the valve core had loosened and shot out while pumping in the stand at the shop so I replaced it and haven't had any troubles since. The one previous problem was another issue with a tube and that was just because I ran at too low of a pressure and hit a pot hole close to home but the tires are still kickin' ass. No punctures, no flats and I run some rough roads.

    Thick Slicks just seem more looky than performy most folks who run them seem to just like the big logo and not so much the ride quality.
    Serfas has never really impressed me much either. Maybe I have associated them with lower grade stuff for a while having sold their stuff at the shop in the past and having some old carryover.

    Cheap stuff is cheap for a reason. I would rather spend more on a better quality tire initially than buy a bunch of cheap-o tires over time and spend the same or more and be disappointed all the time.
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    Maxxis Re-Fuse folding tire available in 23, 25 and 28 mm widths.
    Great flat protection here in Arizona where cactus thorns and road debris are plentiful.
    Got only 2 flats in total of 5,000 miles of riding in 2013; one flat was due to a leaky old patch.
    Use them on our tandem and on my single bike.
    Just our input/experience.

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    +1 Gatorskins





    For my fixie I always used Kenda 700x28 . And im happy for that price.

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    I tend to like Vittoria Rubinos and Zaffiros (when I'm feeling cheap). Randonneurs are good, too. Usually 700x23 or 25. Try experimenting with different amounts of air pressure, until you find what works best for you. Typically, in smooth, dry conditions I'll run about 110psi (bear in mind, I'm a pretty light person, too). When the road get wet, I tend to decrease pressure a bit for a little better traction. You may simply need to decrease your pressure for the bumpier rides.

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    Tires are the one of the few places that weight actually makes a difference you can feel in how they ride.

    For 28mm's:
    Randonneurs: 510 grams
    Ribmo: 370 grams
    Gatorskins: 360 grams
    T-Serv: 270 grams

    Basically Randonneurs are really *ucking heavy compared to...everything

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    I've gotten a few good rides on the Ribmos.
    Nice solid confidence-inspiring ride.

    Interestingly, they throw gravel where the ThickSlicks kind of just mush over it.
    I rode the same route today on each tire to confirm it (different bikes).
    With the Ribmos I could see the gravel spinning off of the front tire and hear it hitting spokes.
    Im guessing that's a function of the tread.
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