monkey

I'm looking to replace the tires on my newly aquired 80's Gios track. There was a thread a while back wherein someone posted an external link to a really good step-by-step for installing tubs. I couldn't find it in the search, so any help is appreciated.

dolface

here's a pretty good article by jobst brandt https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brandt/m...-tubulars.html

monkey

Wasn't what I was looking for, but a big help none the less. Thanks.

flythebike

This is a great article: https://www.cyclingnews.com/tech/fix/?id=tubular.

TNCLR

If you want to avoid the hassle and mess of gluing the tires on, I've had great luck with the Tufo Tubular Gluing Tape. It took me about 15 minutes to both tires. Pretty good stuff. Check it out here: https://www.tufo.com/index.php?lg=en&mn=7&co=prislus

flythebike

I council against that stuff if you ever think there is either A) a chance you'll ride in the rain or in extreme heat, as in the rain I've had it slip for/aft and move the valve stem and then there is a hop in the tire or B) that you'll ever remove the tire before it wears out, because then you might need to peel the tape off of the tire and it is about as bad as a root canal.

But other than that the tape is good. It is easy, it works under most conditions, and it is affordable, and it isn't messy. Buy I've got the gluing thing down so I went back to that.

peligro

https://www.yellowjersey.org/frontwheel.html

Installing a sewup is very easy. Don't get intimidated.

Skidding tubulars is a bad idea, but you knew that already, right?

Rev.Chuck

First, remove the old tire. You will need to get a small section loose, sometimes I have to work a tire lever in there to get the tire free. Once you can get your fingers under it you can pull it off fairly easy. Clean off any loose glue, it does not have to be spotless, but get it pretty clean.
Stretch the tires on the rims for 24 hours. Apply glue(I like Continental*) to the cotton on the tire making sure you get it into the cotton good, might need two on a new tire. Apply a layer to the rim, don't goop it up in the holes, don't get it all over, just where the tire sits. Wait about fifteen minutes. Sit the rim valve hole up and set the valve in place getting it straight(This is your only chance to get it straight) Pushing the rim down against a clean spot on the floor and holding the tire on either side of the valve push down and roll the tire onto the rim, trying to keep the force on the tire, you are trying to keep the tire stretched tight as possible so it you have as much "extra" as possible when you get to the last couple of inches. Don't worry if you make a little mess, you can clean it up later.

I like to use a rubber throw away gloves when putting the glue on. However I use my bare hands for mounting the tire as the gloves just get trapped in the glue and caught between tire and rim.

* I really like Fasttack, and never had a problem in ten years with it, but some companys claim it causes the cotton to seperate from the tire casing.

monkey

How about mild skipping and skidding? I should be okay, right?

flythebike

Those tires cost a lot of money. If you have a lot of money. Skid and skip all you want.

I skidded on one in a race this weekend for a moment. No worries. But I wasn't doing it exactly on purpose...

monkey

I don't have any money, which is why I'm giving these a shot on the street until I save up enough for a new street wheelset and I have a spare tubular. Thanks for all your help, guys. Seriously.

peligro

If you skid, the glue could break free and the tire will rotate around the rim, maybe ripping off the valve stem. Put a brake on, unless looking cool is more important than staying alive.

Rev.Chuck

If you glue it right the tire will not rotate on the rim. About the only thing that might make a tire come off, if glued right, is a hard smack to the side of the tire, like if you get half wheeled and go down crossed up. There is a great shot of this in this months Velonews

Ceya

what do ya need to know? Tubies ahh.

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Ceya

no problems here with skipping but imho..

When you mount it after putting the glue on , (I like Vittoria Red) make sure the valve part of the tubular is under you. put the valve in and slowly put one hand on each side and slowly pull the tire down stretching the tubular out. Make sure you don't let the tire slide or glue will get on your hands.

Some times you should pratice before mounting and prestretch the tire.
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Paraleisure

Here's a crazy crit guy's method:

https://www.faqs.org/faqs/bicycles-fa...ection-17.html

I didn't follow this at all, it's too intense. The only hard part is getting the last bit of the tire over when the glue is on, because you don't want to rub glue off onto the braking surface. And then align it quickly once you get it on! It gets hard to move in a pretty short amount of time.

If you are having lots of trouble I could show you sometime, PM me if you want. It's not hard though, you should be able to get it on your own.