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Old 08-27-06, 03:49 AM   #1
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Cycling Noob!

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I've been lurking for quite some time as i've been getting ready to purchase my first road bike. I just wanted to know if there were any LBS that you folks near or around orange county recommend (Brea, Placentia). I was looking at the TREK 1000 at Jax in fullerton ( I attend CSUF btw) and they have it for 650. I was wondering if that was a fair price and a good entry bike to start out on. I won't be using this as a commuter since i have my motorcycle (more on this later), and i plan to stick to the road (hence the road bike). I'm still quite ignorant when it comes to bicycles so I appreciate your help on this. My main purpose for the bike is to actually get out and get some excercise ( I hate the gym), quit smoking (Can't breath...then i can't pedal), and i love being outdoors ( I'm always taking the scenic route on my motorcycle)

Now back to my motorcycle comment. I technically havn't ridden a bike for a few years. I did hop on my roomates FX 7.2 the other day, wobbled around for the first few feet, then pretty much got the hang of it. My concern is that i'm used to riding my motorcycle and i'm afraid that the techniques used to ride one don't transfer over to bicycles very well (leaning, braking, etc). So your tips are greatly appreciated

Not sure where else i'm going with this post but i could sure use your advice on what to purchase, where, and well....how to get back in the swing of things.

Thanks for your time and I hope to be riding with you all soon!

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Old 08-27-06, 07:14 AM   #2
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Surf City Cyclery in Huntington Beach has the equivalent Specialized (Allez Triple) for around $500 or something.

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My concern is that i'm used to riding my motorcycle and i'm afraid that the techniques used to ride one don't transfer over to bicycles very well (leaning, braking, etc). So your tips are greatly appreciated
Motorcycle techniques are similar to bikes - countersteering, lean, looking through turns, braking, etc. If you're used to right brake front, then you may want to switch your brakes on your bike, which come with left brake front, right brake rear. I do this on my bikes. The bigget difference between motorcycles and bikes is that while on the street, you can't rely on the power to pull out the sticky situations. But, you'll have no problem.
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Whatever brike brand, Fullerton hias hills in its vicinity. Make sure your bike setup has the gearing to help you along those hills. Do this now before you take possession of the bike. Jax offers different levels of service when it comes to bike fitting. Make sure you budget that in.

Trek bikes are ok. Fair price, I don't know. Specialized is good too so are Jamis and Fuji for entry level.
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Hello, and welcome Raven R1!!
I frequent Jax in Huntington Beach, and can't say enough good thing's about dealing with Paul there. If it is a Trek you are looking for, he is your guy! He has just returned from a three day tour of the Trek plant, and can answer all of your question's, and will never pressure you into buying anything.
I also frequent Surf City Cyclery, and you can check them out here: http://surfcitycyclery.com/
Also, a bit more of the high end, but if your ever in Seal Beach, hit up Derek at Kings Pro Shop: http://www.kingsbicyclestore.com/
Good luck, and please let us know how it goes
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In your local area there's a good shop in Brea - Two Wheeler Dealer located near the Brea Mall, off Imperial Hwy (the street just past St. College). It's s small local shop, doesn't carry alot but they can offer good service and advice. They will definitely have a Trek bike you can try. Alot of my friends (andmyself) have been loyal customers for years.
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My concern is that i'm used to riding my motorcycle and i'm afraid that the techniques used to ride one don't transfer over to bicycles very well (leaning, braking, etc). So your tips are greatly appreciated
It like tennis and racketball.......you'll get the hang of one or the other very quickly...
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It like tennis and racketball.......you'll get the hang of one or the other very quickly...
I need to find a sport I can get the hang of.

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Thanks for the advice guys!

I'm headed down to a few lbs tomorrow after school to try out some bikes and see what fits me best and to do some price comparisons. I havn't been able to get much sleep the past few days since i've been on this forum reading up lol (buying a bike is as exciting as buying a new car hehe!).

Anyway, wish me luck. I'll be sure to post up some pictures when i do get the bike and hopefully i'll be riding with you guys soon.

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trek 1000 i wn it great bike
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Old 08-29-06, 06:58 AM   #11
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Anyway, wish me luck. I'll be sure to post up some pictures when i do get the bike and hopefully i'll be riding with you guys soon.

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Best of luck finding your new bike Ryan! Can't wait to see her
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+1 for 2 wheeler dealer.
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Well! Got Good news and sorta bad news? I put my deposit down on a Trek 1500 from Jax and i'll be picking it up tomorrow after they build it. Now, the problem is i'm not sure it's the correct size for me. I'm 5'6-5'7 ish. The sales lady had me stand over the bike and hold the handlebar with my right and the seat with my left and lift till it touched my body. The bike size is 54 and she said it was just about right, but i've been reading all these posts and it seems that I should have been measured instead. Not to mention I was wearing boots which might have given me a little boost hehe. At least Jax has a thirty day gaurantee and i'm pretty sure i can check everything out again tomorrow.

Nonetheless! I excited about the new bike, just a bit nervous since it's quite a chunk of cash and I want everything to be perfect. I'll definitely have pictures up tomorrow.

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I'd get measured. It's doable. I'm about you're height, and I'd probably take a 52 with a longer stem. Don't worry about it though. Did you ride it?
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See, I thought that a 52 would fit me better. I didn't get a chance to ride it I just sat on it with it held up to get a feeling for the position. The thing is they are closed. I guess i can call them in the morning (the Long Beach store) and say to change it to a 52 while I make sure it's the right size for me at the Fullerton store (Fullerton is way closer but i was in long beach hehe).
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If you want measurements, you can do it yourself. Manufacturer websites have geometry specs, and sites like this (http://www.wrenchscience.com/ws1/Sec...ing/Height.asp) have sizing suggestions.

I was about your height (5'7). Back when I was purchasing a bike a few months ago, I was juggling between a 52cm C'dale and a 54cm Spec Roubaix which seem equivalent to me size-wise.
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Congrats in advance Ryan!
When your bike is built, and ready to be picked up, ask them to do a fitting for you. When I bought my bike from Jax, they did a pro fit for free, and I couldn't be more happy (as my bike fit is perfect).
Jax does indeed have a thirty day guarantee, and will take care of you no question's asked in the event you decide that is not the bike for you.
Please keep us posted
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Hi Ryan,

If you are going to race, my educated guess is that you need a 52 cm Trek. I am 5' 7" when I stand up straight and I race on a 52 cm Look. If you are riding for enjoyment and fitness a 54 cm might be OK. As others have said, most motorcycling skills transfer to bicycling. As a former motorcyclist, I think that the most important common skill is watching for cars. When I took my MSF class in 1981 the instructor gave the same advice as I had heard for cycling -- always assume that a car driver does NOT see you.

Your best defense on a bicycle and motorcycle is to be conservative on the street. It's kept me off of the pavement for over 15 years.
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Raven: Before you pick up that bike - have someone at the shop (where ever you went) do a real fitting. Standing over the top tube is not a good indication of bike fit. You have have at least been placed on a trainer and the top tube measured. That's the most important fit issue - can you reach the handlebar and brakes comfortably? Please insist on a good fitting otherwise, go somewhere else. No sense spending good money on a ill fitting bike. Unfortunately lots of folks do....

And are you buying a bike without riding it???? Not a good idea...
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And are you buying a bike without riding it???? Not a good idea...
i bought my ruby (and my dolce for that matter) without test riding them! checked the sizing charts.... and ordered it.... however i did get fit to it!

to a new rider... the ride won't "mean" much.... i know when i was buying my first bike and did ride som of them... and i was like MEH! they all felt "the same"! since i had NO idea what i was looking for!

hubby bought both of his last two frames without riding them...
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See, I thought that a 52 would fit me better. I didn't get a chance to ride it I just sat on it with it held up to get a feeling for the position. The thing is they are closed. I guess i can call them in the morning (the Long Beach store) and say to change it to a 52 while I make sure it's the right size for me at the Fullerton store (Fullerton is way closer but i was in long beach hehe).
Raven, I'm about 3 inches taller than you and ride a 54. I would think a 52 would fit you better, and will put less pressure on your back, as you'll be stretched out less. I used to ride a 56, then a 55, and now a 54. Unless you are a racer, a more compact position may be more comfortable. Just my impression.
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I guess I was a bit too excited when I bought the bike but I just called them up to let them know. A 54 and a 52 are being built now so I can come in tomorrow and try them both out and get fitted. No biggie, just one more day. Blegh, thats what i get for rushing.
I just looked at the boots I was using when I went in and they give me over an inch! Needless to say when I stood barefoot over my roomates Trek 7.2fx which was also a 54 , I less than an inch of clearance.
So tomorrow it is hehe, thanks again for the help guys (and girls!)

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Unless you are a racer, a more compact position may be more comfortable. Just my impression.
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Depends... reach can be adjusted (within reason) by swapping stems. A smaller frame would also in general promote a larger saddle to bar drop, which is not exactly conducive to comfort. (But between two sizes, there is quite a bit of overlap in the possible setups. I ride a 54 cm, but in a pinch, I could easily be set up on a 52 cm or a 56 cm.)

I agree with Pam. For your first bike, having someone take the time to reasonably fit you is important. If you're relatively out of shape (as I was when I started), your fit will change over time, but you need to be comfortable, or else your interest in cycling will be short-lived. And you need the right size bike that your expected future changes in fit are accomodated. Over time, you may become more flexible and develop a stronger core. In that case, you may start wanting a bit more stretched out position and a bit more saddle to bar drop. You should be fit on a frame that allows a comfortable fit now and leaves room in the right direction for anticipated future changes in fitness. If you're already with no spacers under the stem and with a relatively long stem when you start, you're possibly on too large a frame. It might work out well now, but you might regret it later.
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