merider1

Good point, James. I am bringing my camel back and may very well use it. I'm also bringing 4 gallons of water and one extra liter for Lee (just reconfirming, Lee, ). With all my big talk about drinking and partying, I may be the biggest disappointment of the evening. I'm concerned with dehydration!

merider1

Oh, and by the way, I have an extra camel back if anyone wants to borrow it. It's a little larger than one would hope on a bike but it would work in a pinch.

jsigone

temps should be in the mid 70's so I don't think we'll we slurping water out of the bottles. But I'm going to bring my 50oz camelbak+ the two bottles, just in case I or someone needs it.

If someone has one of the racks that attach to the seatpost, I don't mind carrying water bottles in a bag or what not. I'm sure the weight won't slow me down too much.

merider1

Forgive my ignorance, but are we not going to dealing with some altitude? I'm usually more parched in that case.

jschen

I'll carry lots of water. My 50 oz hydration bladder is leaky, so I'll bring my 100 oz. And two bottles. No way I'll drink all that, but maybe it will help out someone who's marginal in water supply.

jsigone

I can't recall what the ride mileage or the elevation is.....Thought it was around 3k ft of climbing.

markg

Are we doing the loop or the out-and-back?

Extort

Madmike is out, so my MTB is being strapped onto the rack!
WOO HOO! Sunday MTB ride!

By the way I only know about five tents right now, so let me know if I need to plan for more (2 sites, 4 cars, 6 tents), or should I get a third site so that we can have up to 6 cars and 9 tents?

jsigone

I need a camp spot
1 tent for me, one car

Tiffanie

The link that James (chimivee) just posted has some ride details in it. Mileage is ~65 miles with ~4500 feet of climbing. That's the out and back. The loop will have same mileage with 1000-1500 feet of add'l climbing.

If I remember correctly, the campground is at ~4400 feet. ??

jsigone

I'm not worried, 4500 isn't bad...compaired to the Pie tune up ride Jason and I did. Should be FUNNN!!!!!

I MAY bring my MTB too, we'll see. I'm still not sure if i'll be staying another night.

chimivee

I think maybe 3 sites for Friday night (5-6 cars):

1. extort/m.e.
2. fixer
3. chimivee
4. Tiff/Brandy/PBryant1
5. jsigone
6. bitingduck (?)


And 2 sites for Saturday night (1-4 cars):

1. extort
2. chimivee (maybe)
3. jsigone (maybe)
4. Tiff/Brandy/PBranyt1 (not actually spending night)


Sheesh, that took a long time to figure out.

caligurl

there's water at the west entrance and there's a circle k or somthing like that at the corner when you turn on the highway...

with the mileage being the same... i turn around and go back after key's view cuz it keeps you off the highway (65 mph... well.... you'll see when you come into town if you come all the way to 29 and don't enter the park in JT)

i've never had an issue with water doing the full loop

mark, right now the plan for loop or out and back is up to each individual rider.... those that don't want to go all the way to key's view can turn around at any point and head straight back to luckie park (or wait at the jumbo rocks campsite, i'm assuming.. til other turn arounders come on the way back down? i normally stop at jumbo for a tinkle break... ya... TMI! lol!)) those that want to continue through the park and come back via the highway can do that (you MUST ride single file on the highway!)

for me.... since their is an option... i choose returning through the park to stay off the highwy 99.9% of the time... but that's just me!

caligurl

tiffanie asked about coming in the cottonwood entrance versus using 62 to the north entrance (or JT entrance) here was my reply:

i'll be gone most of today and check to see if you have any more questions when i get home.....

ecnetsixe

*sigh*...................i want to come

merider1

Ah, Dan. You'll just have to move to So Cal! In the meantime, we'll take pictures, I'm sure!

Brandy

It's not too late if you hop on a plane in oh...the next five or six hours. I'll pick you up at the airport and you can ride with Tiff and I. You can't sleep in my tent though, no boys allowed.

ecnetsixe

take loads of them - funny ones, weird ones, scenery ones, riding ones, rude ones, scary ones, mysterious ones, outrageous ones, silly ones, serious ones, formal ones, insightful ones, majestic ones, nude ones (of everyone).

ok ok myabe i went ONE too many.

Brandy

You meant to leave off the (of everyone) part, didn't you?

ecnetsixe

great i will be left to fend for myself out in the wilderness with no place to rest my weary head!!! ill end up like timothy treadwell!!!!!!!!!!!! (except its nowhere near nor nothing like alaska and completely not relevent lol)

Brandy

Okay, okay...I'll offer you my vestibule.

ecnetsixe

vestibule? what the hell is that? is it eatable? i will bring my swag and camp by a billabong. lol

thomson

voltman

Hehe. Edible vestibule.

tprevost

so... uhm... why aren't you going mister??? You're gonna miss out on the edible vestibules