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    CRYSTAL LAKE PART ONE - December 17th

    POSTPONED!!


    CRYSTAL LAKE, PART I
    Weather LINK: correction www.wrh.noaa.gov/lax
    (go below in link and click on Los Angeles, Oxnard)

    December 17, 2006
    Arrive: 7:45 a.m.
    Roll: 8:00 a.m.
    Meet: Encanto Park located at http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed...&gid1=23114135.
    Route Slips: Will be provided the morning of, but here is a link to GMAPS for a peek at what you're getting into: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=564455
    NOTE: Freezing conditions, ice or rain cancels ride. I will reschedule should this happen.

    STATS: Approx. 64 miles to the top of 39 and back – 76 if you continue up to AC. Roughly 7,000 feet of climbing give or take, but no less than 5,000.

    Route: From Encanto, quick jump SGRT Bike path to HWY 39. We will then climb up 39 to the top. Faster climbers will have the option to continue an extra 12 miles (6 up and back) to Angeles Crest. Slower riders will stop at the top of 39 (you’ll know when you’ve hit the top). We will head back down, over East Fork, up little GMR (still East Fork but leads to GRR), down Big GMR, over Sierre Madre to Encanto Park. I will be mapping this out and posting a link soon.

    Water: THERE WILL BE ONE STOP ON THE WAY BACK. So, if you plan to ride up to AC, please bring extra water. It shouldn’t be hot, so two water bottles or a camel back should be okay to the top of 39 (I climbed it with that much water in heat and I’m still here). I will also try to figure out a way to plant some extra water at the ranger station, but I need some time on that. However, you know your water needs, so please plan accordingly!

    Fuel: Bring it. Although, food is sold at the cafe along the route (our water stop, FYI).

    Dress: Expect cold and dress accordingly, but layer. With no shade, it could get toasty on the climbs. The descents could be downright chilly!! Closer to the date, I will provide a brief weather report update.

    Lunch: As we pass EF Café on the way back, you will be able to purchase snacks (bring cash). For those of you who have the time after the ride, we’ll grab burritos at Green Onion on Huntington Blvd.

    Time: Well, how long does it take you to ride 64 miles with upwards of 5K feet of climbing? Expect at least 5 hours.

    THIS IS A NO-DROP RIDE! No one will be left behind (and that means that you guys cannot run off and leave me either! )

    LIST OF ATTENDEES:

    STUDS - YES, WILL BE THERE:
    Jschen
    thomson
    merider1
    IanInSD
    BitingDuck
    MrDick
    scvroadie
    jsigone
    Grumpypig
    Extort ()
    Scootcore
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    NOT QUITE STUDS - MAYBE THEY'LL COME:
    Chimivee
    My58vw
    Sidepocket
    Tprevost
    Tiffanie
    OcRoadie
    The Fixer
    Tak962

    WIMPS - NOT COMING JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE LAZY:
    You know who you are...
    Last edited by merider1; 12-15-06 at 06:35 PM. Reason: Date Change

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    Revision

    This is why I am so bad at this! I just realized the date I chose conflicts with the Burrito Century So, CHANGING THE DATE to DECEMBER 17TH.

    Mea culpa, Matteo. I DO want to do the Burrito Century.

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    I'll join you, M.E.

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    Mark me down as a possible
    Women think they're so clever because they can fake an orgasm for the sake of a relationship, but men can fake a whole relationship for the sake of an orgasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jschen
    I'll join you, M.E.
    Hi Jason, Glad you're back online. We all missed you. Great, I'll put you on the list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extort
    Mark me down as a possible
    Only possible?

    just kidding...okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extort
    Mark me down as a possible
    +uno
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschen
    I'll join you, M.E.

    Hi J
    Last edited by BigSean; 07-03-07 at 09:12 PM.

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    Providing I don't crash and break my arm again at the Tour de Tucson, I would be interested.

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    I'm a probably for that.

    Combined with the burrito ride and the xmas trip I'll get at least a 600 mile month, even with a week off at xmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scvroadie
    Providing I don't crash and break my arm again at the Tour de Tucson, I would be interested.
    Don't do that again!

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    I'm in!!

    Did I read right in that you are providing burritos to all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomson
    I'm in!!

    Did I read right in that you are providing burritos to all?
    Sure, Jim. And YOU can provide the margaritas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1
    Sure, Jim. And YOU can provide the margaritas!
    No problem, my generator will run a blender

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    Did someone say burritos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mateo44
    Did someone say burritos?
    Why yes, Matteo. AFTER you've earned one climbing up 39.

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    Okay, sorry, since I've never been on any of the roads over there.... you say we start at GMR... does that mean we go up GMR and then turn somewhere? Is there an elevation map of this ride somewhere? I guess I'm just looking for either something to compare it to or more details about difficulty.

    Sorry, I might like to try but am a bit afraid its out of my league.

    t~

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    I will have a better idea by Dec 10 - for the century...
    Just your average club rider... :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tprevost
    Okay, sorry, since I've never been on any of the roads over there.... you say we start at GMR... does that mean we go up GMR and then turn somewhere? Is there an elevation map of this ride somewhere? I guess I'm just looking for either something to compare it to or more details about difficulty.

    Sorry, I might like to try but am a bit afraid its out of my league.

    t~
    No need to apologize, Trac. You have every right to ask. I'm not sure how to get an elevation map...anyone else know where I can get this?

    Also, Trac, I'm happy to talk to you about the ride in detail if you'd like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1
    No need to apologize, Trac. You have every right to ask. I'm not sure how to get an elevation map...anyone else know where I can get this?
    I don't know if you have used any of the google-kit map sites. The easiest one to use to get your elevation map is

    http://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html

    Drag the map until you get your area centered and then use the zooming tool on the left. You may have to go back and forth a bit.

    Once you get your starting point, left click it. Make sure the "Follow Road" box is checked on top and just keep clicking the route. When done, click the "Distance/Elevation" button to get your elevation chart.

    There are others, another popular one is http://www.routeslip.com/
    But they do not have that very important 'follow road" option. According to the routeslip guy, that particular feature is outside of the google terms. RouteSlip.com does provided a total elevation per ride. That is a nice feature but I just hate clicking at every turn. Try them both and see what you like

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomson
    I don't know if you have used any of the google-kit map sites. The easiest one to use to get your elevation map is

    http://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html

    There are others, another popular one is http://www.routeslip.com/
    But they do not have that very important 'follow road" option. According to the routeslip guy, that particular feature is outside of the google terms. RouteSlip.com does provided a total elevation per ride. That is a nice feature but I just hate clicking at every turn. Try them both and see what you like
    Thanks, Jim! I'll see if I can map on one of these this weekend. GeoMaps does not provide elevation (at least I dont' think so).

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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1
    Thanks, Jim! I'll see if I can map on one of these this weekend. GeoMaps does not provide elevation (at least I dont' think so).
    Wait a minute, Geo does. I'll see if I can read it. I'm hopeless in this area.

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    Joe fixed the title for me. Thank you JOE!!!

    I really appreciate it!

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    I have a mental elevation map of that ride. Starting in Glendora at the gate is 1300, top of Big GMR is 3600, down to East Fork at 2000, down to Hwy 39 at 1300, up to Crysrtal Lake 5200, up to Angeles Crest 6700. Back down to East Fork 1300, up to GMR at 2000, up to top of GMR 3600, down to Glendora, at 1300. All these elevations are from sea level. You add it up. V.B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical bob
    I have a mental elevation map of that ride. Starting in Glendora at the gate is 1300, top of Big GMR is 3600, down to East Fork at 2000, down to Hwy 39 at 1300, up to Crysrtal Lake 5200, up to Angeles Crest 6700. Back down to East Fork 1300, up to GMR at 2000, up to top of GMR 3600, down to Glendora, at 1300. All these elevations are from sea level. You add it up. V.B.
    That's quite a mental elevation map., I can't even remember my address. Well, I did live through the 70's so that explains some of it.

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