CRYSTAL LAKE PART ONE - December 17th
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CRYSTAL LAKE PART ONE - December 17th
POSTPONED!!
CRYSTAL LAKE, PART I
Weather LINK: correction www.wrh.noaa.gov/lax
(go below in link and click on Los Angeles, Oxnard)
December 17, 2006
Arrive: 7:45 a.m.
Roll: 8:00 a.m.
Meet: Encanto Park located at https://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed...&gid1=23114135.
Route Slips: Will be provided the morning of, but here is a link to GMAPS for a peek at what you're getting into: https://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=564455
NOTE: Freezing conditions, ice or rain cancels ride. I will reschedule should this happen.
STATS: Approx. 64 miles to the top of 39 and back – 76 if you continue up to AC. Roughly 7,000 feet of climbing give or take, but no less than 5,000.
Route: From Encanto, quick jump SGRT Bike path to HWY 39. We will then climb up 39 to the top. Faster climbers will have the option to continue an extra 12 miles (6 up and back) to Angeles Crest. Slower riders will stop at the top of 39 (you’ll know when you’ve hit the top). We will head back down, over East Fork, up little GMR (still East Fork but leads to GRR), down Big GMR, over Sierre Madre to Encanto Park. I will be mapping this out and posting a link soon.
Water: THERE WILL BE ONE STOP ON THE WAY BACK. So, if you plan to ride up to AC, please bring extra water. It shouldn’t be hot, so two water bottles or a camel back should be okay to the top of 39 (I climbed it with that much water in heat and I’m still here). I will also try to figure out a way to plant some extra water at the ranger station, but I need some time on that. However, you know your water needs, so please plan accordingly!
Fuel: Bring it. Although, food is sold at the cafe along the route (our water stop, FYI).
Dress: Expect cold and dress accordingly, but layer. With no shade, it could get toasty on the climbs. The descents could be downright chilly!! Closer to the date, I will provide a brief weather report update.
Lunch: As we pass EF Café on the way back, you will be able to purchase snacks (bring cash). For those of you who have the time after the ride, we’ll grab burritos at Green Onion on Huntington Blvd.
Time: Well, how long does it take you to ride 64 miles with upwards of 5K feet of climbing? Expect at least 5 hours.
THIS IS A NO-DROP RIDE! No one will be left behind (and that means that you guys cannot run off and leave me either! )
LIST OF ATTENDEES:
STUDS - YES, WILL BE THERE:
Jschen
thomson
merider1
IanInSD
BitingDuck
MrDick
scvroadie
jsigone
Grumpypig
Extort ()
Scootcore
JPconrad
NOT QUITE STUDS - MAYBE THEY'LL COME:
Chimivee
My58vw
Sidepocket
Tprevost
Tiffanie
OcRoadie
The Fixer
Tak962
WIMPS - NOT COMING JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE LAZY:
You know who you are...
CRYSTAL LAKE, PART I
Weather LINK: correction www.wrh.noaa.gov/lax
(go below in link and click on Los Angeles, Oxnard)
December 17, 2006
Arrive: 7:45 a.m.
Roll: 8:00 a.m.
Meet: Encanto Park located at https://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed...&gid1=23114135.
Route Slips: Will be provided the morning of, but here is a link to GMAPS for a peek at what you're getting into: https://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=564455
NOTE: Freezing conditions, ice or rain cancels ride. I will reschedule should this happen.
STATS: Approx. 64 miles to the top of 39 and back – 76 if you continue up to AC. Roughly 7,000 feet of climbing give or take, but no less than 5,000.
Route: From Encanto, quick jump SGRT Bike path to HWY 39. We will then climb up 39 to the top. Faster climbers will have the option to continue an extra 12 miles (6 up and back) to Angeles Crest. Slower riders will stop at the top of 39 (you’ll know when you’ve hit the top). We will head back down, over East Fork, up little GMR (still East Fork but leads to GRR), down Big GMR, over Sierre Madre to Encanto Park. I will be mapping this out and posting a link soon.
Water: THERE WILL BE ONE STOP ON THE WAY BACK. So, if you plan to ride up to AC, please bring extra water. It shouldn’t be hot, so two water bottles or a camel back should be okay to the top of 39 (I climbed it with that much water in heat and I’m still here). I will also try to figure out a way to plant some extra water at the ranger station, but I need some time on that. However, you know your water needs, so please plan accordingly!
Fuel: Bring it. Although, food is sold at the cafe along the route (our water stop, FYI).
Dress: Expect cold and dress accordingly, but layer. With no shade, it could get toasty on the climbs. The descents could be downright chilly!! Closer to the date, I will provide a brief weather report update.
Lunch: As we pass EF Café on the way back, you will be able to purchase snacks (bring cash). For those of you who have the time after the ride, we’ll grab burritos at Green Onion on Huntington Blvd.
Time: Well, how long does it take you to ride 64 miles with upwards of 5K feet of climbing? Expect at least 5 hours.
THIS IS A NO-DROP RIDE! No one will be left behind (and that means that you guys cannot run off and leave me either! )
LIST OF ATTENDEES:
STUDS - YES, WILL BE THERE:
Jschen
thomson
merider1
IanInSD
BitingDuck
MrDick
scvroadie
jsigone
Grumpypig
Extort ()
Scootcore
JPconrad
NOT QUITE STUDS - MAYBE THEY'LL COME:
Chimivee
My58vw
Sidepocket
Tprevost
Tiffanie
OcRoadie
The Fixer
Tak962
WIMPS - NOT COMING JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE LAZY:
You know who you are...
Last edited by merider1; 12-15-06 at 07:35 PM. Reason: Date Change
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This is why I am so bad at this! I just realized the date I chose conflicts with the Burrito Century So, CHANGING THE DATE to DECEMBER 17TH.
Mea culpa, Matteo. I DO want to do the Burrito Century.
Mea culpa, Matteo. I DO want to do the Burrito Century.
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Originally Posted by jschen
I'll join you, M.E.
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Providing I don't crash and break my arm again at the Tour de Tucson, I would be interested.
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Originally Posted by scvroadie
Providing I don't crash and break my arm again at the Tour de Tucson, I would be interested.
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Originally Posted by thomson
I'm in!!
Did I read right in that you are providing burritos to all?
Did I read right in that you are providing burritos to all?
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Okay, sorry, since I've never been on any of the roads over there.... you say we start at GMR... does that mean we go up GMR and then turn somewhere? Is there an elevation map of this ride somewhere? I guess I'm just looking for either something to compare it to or more details about difficulty.
Sorry, I might like to try but am a bit afraid its out of my league.
t~
Sorry, I might like to try but am a bit afraid its out of my league.
t~
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I will have a better idea by Dec 10 - for the century...
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Originally Posted by tprevost
Okay, sorry, since I've never been on any of the roads over there.... you say we start at GMR... does that mean we go up GMR and then turn somewhere? Is there an elevation map of this ride somewhere? I guess I'm just looking for either something to compare it to or more details about difficulty.
Sorry, I might like to try but am a bit afraid its out of my league.
t~
Sorry, I might like to try but am a bit afraid its out of my league.
t~
Also, Trac, I'm happy to talk to you about the ride in detail if you'd like.
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Originally Posted by merider1
No need to apologize, Trac. You have every right to ask. I'm not sure how to get an elevation map...anyone else know where I can get this?
https://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html
Drag the map until you get your area centered and then use the zooming tool on the left. You may have to go back and forth a bit.
Once you get your starting point, left click it. Make sure the "Follow Road" box is checked on top and just keep clicking the route. When done, click the "Distance/Elevation" button to get your elevation chart.
There are others, another popular one is https://www.routeslip.com/
But they do not have that very important 'follow road" option. According to the routeslip guy, that particular feature is outside of the google terms. RouteSlip.com does provided a total elevation per ride. That is a nice feature but I just hate clicking at every turn. Try them both and see what you like
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Originally Posted by thomson
I don't know if you have used any of the google-kit map sites. The easiest one to use to get your elevation map is
https://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html
There are others, another popular one is https://www.routeslip.com/
But they do not have that very important 'follow road" option. According to the routeslip guy, that particular feature is outside of the google terms. RouteSlip.com does provided a total elevation per ride. That is a nice feature but I just hate clicking at every turn. Try them both and see what you like
https://www.toporoute.com/routePlanner.html
There are others, another popular one is https://www.routeslip.com/
But they do not have that very important 'follow road" option. According to the routeslip guy, that particular feature is outside of the google terms. RouteSlip.com does provided a total elevation per ride. That is a nice feature but I just hate clicking at every turn. Try them both and see what you like
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Originally Posted by merider1
Thanks, Jim! I'll see if I can map on one of these this weekend. GeoMaps does not provide elevation (at least I dont' think so).
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I have a mental elevation map of that ride. Starting in Glendora at the gate is 1300, top of Big GMR is 3600, down to East Fork at 2000, down to Hwy 39 at 1300, up to Crysrtal Lake 5200, up to Angeles Crest 6700. Back down to East Fork 1300, up to GMR at 2000, up to top of GMR 3600, down to Glendora, at 1300. All these elevations are from sea level. You add it up. V.B.
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Originally Posted by vertical bob
I have a mental elevation map of that ride. Starting in Glendora at the gate is 1300, top of Big GMR is 3600, down to East Fork at 2000, down to Hwy 39 at 1300, up to Crysrtal Lake 5200, up to Angeles Crest 6700. Back down to East Fork 1300, up to GMR at 2000, up to top of GMR 3600, down to Glendora, at 1300. All these elevations are from sea level. You add it up. V.B.