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bluetri 10-20-06 10:27 AM

Starbucks Discouraged Bike Riding
 
Did anybody else read this article about a Starbucks regional manager telling a store manager that riding bikes to work is unprofessional? It seemed very unfortunate to me. Here's the link.

http://bikeportland.org/2006/10/17/s...aged-bike-use/

(I also posted this under Advocay but I wanted to post it here too.)

BigSean 10-20-06 10:33 AM

Portland is known as a bike friendly city too. Thats a sad thing. I will be a Peete's coffee customer from now on.

thomson 10-20-06 10:33 AM

That is unfortunate. I am glad Fabian moved on.

Too bad the reporter didn't ask Starbucks' marketing department "what is Starbucks policy toward bicycle commuting?"

voltman 10-20-06 10:35 AM

Of course, because working at Starbucks is the height of professionalism.

BigSean 10-20-06 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by voltman
Of course, because working at Starbucks is the height of professionalism.


I was thinking the same thing.

thomson 10-20-06 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by thomson

Too bad the reporter didn't ask Starbucks' marketing department "what is Starbucks policy toward bicycle commuting?"


OK, I just asked Starbucks the aforementioned question with reference to the article. I will report any response I receive.

Extort 10-20-06 10:46 AM

I would have continued to work there but switched to bibs and skinsuits for the ride in... I'd also make sure that I pushed myself so that I'd be hot and sweaty when I got there...

I like annoying worthless managers! :D

thomson 10-20-06 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Extort
I would have continued to work there but switched to bibs and skinsuits for the ride in... I'd also make sure that I pushed myself so that I'd be hot and sweaty when I got there...

I like annoying worthless managers! :D

That's not bad, or buy the biggest heap of a car from a junkyard and park it right in front of the store.

Extort 10-20-06 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by thomson
That's not bad, or buy the biggest heap of a car from a junkyard and park it right in front of the store.

Make sure that it has a horrible exaust system and needs to warm up for at least 10 minutes before it moves....

Psydotek 10-20-06 11:31 AM

Boo... Good thing i don't go to starbucks to begin with. :D [so i can spend my $$$ on other things like computer/car/bike parts] :lol:

SixEye 10-20-06 11:57 AM

Well, wait a minute fellas, I mean I would understand if he would show up to "district meetings" all sweaty, don't you think? But when it comes to working daily I do not think that should be a problem. Just my 2 cents.

bluetri 10-20-06 12:02 PM

I was directed to an existing post on the subject. Here's the link.

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=237851

cjbruin 10-20-06 03:05 PM

Starbucks - "If you want coffee really bad, we have really bad coffee."

urbanknight 10-20-06 03:53 PM

Starbucks doesn't promote free trade coffee anyway, so I don't drink there. Coffee Bean all the way.

Tiffanie 10-20-06 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by BigSean
I will be a Peete's coffee customer from now on.

Another Peet's fan here...

SixEye 10-20-06 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by urbanknight
Starbucks doesn't promote free trade coffee anyway, so I don't drink there. Coffee Bean all the way.

Yeah, +1 on Coffeebean, Urban, you're from the SFV aren't you? Hah!

urbanknight 10-20-06 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by SixEye
Yeah, +1 on Coffeebean, Urban, you're from the SFV aren't you? Hah!

Yeah, is that a valley thing to do or something? My wife and I just try to be somewhat geologically sensible. She didn't want me to buy her a blood daimond for her ring, we recycle what we can, etc. Actually, she doesn't even drink coffee, but her former schoolmates were very anti Starbucks for that reason.

jsigone 10-20-06 04:21 PM

I'm a poor man so I stick to te home brew anyways. I can get a Double Double meal for the price of one cup of coffe.

IMO, I think all companies should promote bike riding. I'm lucky that here at work, about 11 of us have bikes and ride alot. We even got the company to pay for some jerseys.

furiousferret 10-20-06 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by SixEye
Well, wait a minute fellas, I mean I would understand if he would show up to "district meetings" all sweaty, don't you think? But when it comes to working daily I do not think that should be a problem. Just my 2 cents.

Agree entirely. Showing up to a Corporate meeting with the same clothes as you rode your bike on is very unprofessional. Whether bike commuters like to hear it or not, some professions require good decorum and hygene. Unless there is a shower at work, will limit certain people from riding bicycles to work.

mateo44 10-21-06 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Tiffanie
Another Peet's fan here...

+1 for Peet's

LCI_Brian 10-21-06 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by SixEye
Well, wait a minute fellas, I mean I would understand if he would show up to "district meetings" all sweaty, don't you think? But when it comes to working daily I do not think that should be a problem. Just my 2 cents.

I agree - but doesn't seem a little extreme that he was transferred to a store much further away as a result?

thomson 10-24-06 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by thomson
OK, I just asked Starbucks the aforementioned question with reference to the article. I will report any response I receive.

My question to Starbucks was simply "what is Starbucks policy toward bicycle commuting". Here is the response I received from them. (I have no idea who Mickey is, I used my real name in my correspondence to them. I have a feeling it was a cut and paste from another response.)




Hello Mickey,



Thank you for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.



Recently, comments were made online about an incident which occurred between a Starbucks district manager and store manager Fabian Mills in Portland, Ore. regarding his bicycling to work. The portrayal of this exchange as presented by Mr. Mills in this online article is false. The concerns raised by the district manager were regarding Mr. Mills' arriving late to a meeting and being disheveled in appearance, not about his riding a bicycle to work.



Starbucks has a long history of supporting alternative transportation commute options for our partners (employees). Starbucks encourages partners to use alternative transportation; in fact, in 2005, 29 percent of our partners at the Starbucks Support Center in Seattle participated in alternative commute programs, including bicycling to work. Additionally, Starbucks was the title sponsor of the Seattle Bike to Work Day 2006 in May.



Starbucks hosts a Biking Club as part of Partner Connections, a program designed to encourage partners to participate in activities outside of the everyday work environment. This Biking Club also encourages partners to ride their bicycles to work.



In Oregon, Starbucks is a regular sponsor of Providence Bridge Pedal, Portland's annual community cycling event. Starbucks has also worked with the Bicycle Transportation Alliance (BTA) to encourage and reward residents who cycle as an alternative means of transportation, including Starbucks partners.



Again, thank you for contacting Starbucks Coffee Company.



Sincerely,



Rachel A.

Customer Relations Representative

ovoleg 10-24-06 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by voltman
Of course, because working at Starbucks is the height of professionalism.


thats a pretty disgusting thing to say...

maddmike 10-24-06 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by Psydotek
Boo... Good thing i don't go to starbucks to begin with. :D [so i can spend my $$$ on other things like computer/car/bike parts] :lol:


I don't go to Starbuck because I actuall like good coffee!

Mr. Gear Jammer 10-24-06 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by bluetri
Did anybody else read this article about a Starbucks regional manager telling a store manager that riding bikes to work is unprofessional? It seemed very unfortunate to me. Here's the link.

http://bikeportland.org/2006/10/17/s...aged-bike-use/

(I also posted this under Advocay but I wanted to post it here too.)

To discourage a healthy habit i find that quite rude:mad:.


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