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Old 11-16-06, 10:52 PM   #1
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Meth Addicts, Pit Bulls and careless drivers

Today was the strangest day I have ever experienced on my bike. Maybe some of you have similiar stories. I ride in the Inland Empire, mostly in Ontario and parts of Rancho Cucamonga, Alta Loma, and Northern Fontana. The route I decided to take today was a 40 miler which consists of a steady climb for about 15 miles. You can find the route at www.routeslip.com, if your interested.

Anyways, after making a left turn onto a moderate ascent, I came upon a house next to a big field. There was a large brown dog standing at attention as I started to pass by. He defended his territory by charging forward a few feet and barking aggressively. Thinking he might come after me, I yelled a loud "NO" while grabbing my water bottle just in case. The dog looked menacing, but grabbing my bottle was a knee-jerk reaction, and in a few moments it would prove to be more of a hindrance than a good defense.

The defending dog remained on his property, so I relaxed a bit as I continued past the house. As I reached down to replace the waterbottle, I heard another bark and, oh yes, more snarling and growling, but this time a large, white dog appeared out of the darkness of the open garage hurling his body towards me with great velocity. I knew he wanted me. Again, adrenaline shot through me, but my legs felt heavy. The ascent rendered me helpless. The distance between us was about 40 feet and closing fast. To make things worse, this beast appeared to be a Pit Bull. With one hand on my water bottle, I tried to grip my bars but I couldn't. I hammered as hard as I could while trying to change gears with the bottle in my right hand. Going no more than 15 miles an hour, I looked back and saw the wicked thing coming right for me and closing in at about 15 feet. Luckily a van was heading right towards me. I noticed I had just enough time to cross in front of the van and hug the curb on the opposite side of the street. I was hoping to create some separation from my body and the vicious animal's sharp teeth. The lady driving the van must have seen the beast pursuing it's prey because she blew her horn like mad. The sound of the horn must have caused the devil to give up on me. Finally, I had a chance to put my waterbottle away and recover. For the next 15 minutes, I debated calling the cops on the real offender. the dogs abusive owner.

However, this was not the typical dog chases me, I escape, type of day. As I continued up the road towards a freeway overpass and the top of the climb, my phone rang. I pulled off to check and see if it was a work emergency. At that moment, a beat up, old 70's style van drove past me on the opposite side of the two lane street. The old two lane, rural road didn't see much traffic, so when a car drive by it's noticeable. The driver of the van streched his long, tatooed arm out the window, and as he passed slowly by, he hurled a long string of expletives my direction. After the shock wore off, I took note of his weather- beaten, sunken face and dirty blonde, wild hair. Last night I saw a special on Meth users, so the first thing to come to my mind was, I'm being harrased by a pack of rabid Meth addicts. Out loud I muttered to myself "you gotta be kidding me." The van continued on to the stop sign 100 yards behind me. Intead of going away, like I hoped, they just stayed there. Normally, I'm not concerned with abusive people. I'm not a light weight at 215 pounds and 6.2," but I'm not the aggressive kind either. Needless to say, I didn't want to have to deal with a group of crazy, Meth induced, psychopaths. I got back on my bike and headed up the hill towards a short, steap section of the two-lane road. I turned around too see where the van went, and to my horror, they were coming back towards me. Yet another rush of adrenaline pulsed through me. I had no idea what they wanted from me if anything. I decided that it not be smart to go up the narrow road hidden from everyones view, so I turned around and headed right towards the van acting as if I wasn't intimidated. They past me again slowly screaming and hollering that they intended to beat my *ss. I just looked at them, and tried to show absolutley no fear or alarm. Now that I was heading back down the hill I picked up some speed trying not to appear to flee. The van did u-turn this time. Now I knew for sure they wanted to either harrase me for fun, try to rob me, or who knows. I didn't think a group of 40 year old men would get off on yelling at cyclists, so I assumed the worst. I got off my saddle and sprinted about 100 yards. I turned right onto another rural street under construction. There were construction workers present, so I figured if they want to come after me or try to hit me, then it would have to be in front of a bunch of people. Reason took over, I think. I got off my bike when I found a sidewalk, grabbed my cell phone and called the cops. After I gave the description, I waited around for about 10 minutes before I decided it was probably safer to just ride into a more populated area. I never saw them again.

On my way home, while turning left on a green arrow, a white SUV turned right in front of me from a stopped position at a red light. I yelled at the driver to let him know I was there, he responded by flipping me off. When I got home I was exhausted from the drama, and decided it would be therapuetic to write about it. The drama was intense, but the ride was awesome. I wasn't bitten or shot, hit by a car, or attacked by some crazies, so I'm looking forward to tomorrow. Anyone want to ride?
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Old 11-16-06, 11:07 PM   #2
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Wow, what a story. Glad you came out OK.

I'd ride with you, but my bullet proof vest is at the dry cleaners.
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actually,....what are you doing sunday? i know this is short notice, and maybe i should just start a thread, but i live in riverside and was hoping to put in a 50+ miler.

your story is very close to my heart as i often encounter strays and crazies in my neighborhood. i once went head-on with a stopped car because i swerved when i looked down at a barking dog. fun times....
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Yikes!

Those meth heads are a scary bunch. I'll have issues with them for a while!

Glad that you are okay and looking forward to tomorrow's ride!
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Old 11-16-06, 11:47 PM   #5
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Damn that sux you really need to find someone to ride in that area. Glad to hear you are safe!
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Old 11-16-06, 11:50 PM   #6
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look man. i work in rancho and live in riverside. hit me up. for reals.
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This is so weird because yesterday was the first time that I met up with people that seemed intent on killing me with their vehicles. Maybe there's something in the air? I don't want to hijack your thread, so just briefly: within the first .5 mile of my *lengthy* 2.4 mile commute home, an SUV nearly left hooked me -- looking directly at me mind you. Then came to a stop and just stayed at the stop sign??!! I went around him, puzzled. Only to encounter a woman who was clearly not looking while she pulled out of a parking lane -- this is all happening in the Riverside Plaza mind you -- I gave her a very wide berth, and just after I was out of her way, she honked at me. Um, what did I do? 100 yards later, a guy pulling out of a restaurant muscled me out of the turn lane, again looking me dead in the eye. At best he was distracted by his dangling cigarette, or perhaps it was the stench of a bad fuel mixture.

This was in addition to, at lunch, witnessing a full on cat fight at in a liquor store parking lot on University Ave. Probably hookers digging their heels into the corner, I figure. Or maybe it was the meth talking.

But your story doesn't smack of run ins with oblivious drivers. You really ran into some nut jobs. Cool that you made it out unscathed. Have you had success fending off dogs with your water bottle?
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Boo... I've had afew run in with dogs in on my rides (one in Ontario, one down in Chino on Archibald coming up through the farming area).

Which area was this in (near which cross streets) so i can avoid it or be more careful next time i'm going through there...

[i've got a bunch of ontario start routeslips]
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Old 11-17-06, 12:17 AM   #9
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Uh, thanks for the routeslip. Sounds like just the sort of ride I like. Glad you're ok.
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Old 11-17-06, 12:19 AM   #10
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Sorry to hear about that. If it makes you feel better, one Mercedes buzzed by me so close I'm surprised I didn't feel her side view mirror, then an SUV honked at me while waiting for a red light. She pointed to the right so I moved to the left thinking she was making a right at the red. She pulled up next to me and sped in front of me and the merging lane when the light changed green. Then another SUV turned right in front of me, despite me having my headlight and blinking taillight on even though it was just a shady place at dusk. At least she had wide eyes when she realized I was there, the other two made gestures I don't care to repeat. Your day was still worse. I start commuting to work by bike on Monday, so I hope I don't get too much crap or I'll go back to the cage.
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Old 11-17-06, 12:43 AM   #11
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fyi, water bottles don't work on meth addicts.

sucky ride. glad you survived
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Sounds like it really wasn't your day. Sorry to hear about it. Glad you're okay, though.
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This is so weird because yesterday was the first time that I met up with people that seemed intent on killing me with their vehicles. Maybe there's something in the air? I don't want to hijack your thread, so just briefly: within the first .5 mile of my *lengthy* 2.4 mile commute home, an SUV nearly left hooked me -- looking directly at me mind you. Then came to a stop and just stayed at the stop sign??!! I went around him, puzzled. Only to encounter a woman who was clearly not looking while she pulled out of a parking lane -- this is all happening in the Riverside Plaza mind you -- I gave her a very wide berth, and just after I was out of her way, she honked at me. Um, what did I do? 100 yards later, a guy pulling out of a restaurant muscled me out of the turn lane, again looking me dead in the eye. At best he was distracted by his dangling cigarette, or perhaps it was the stench of a bad fuel mixture.
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No. I heard that it can work though. I want to get some kind of pepper spray.
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This occured way up above the 210 & the 15 at Carter and Lytle Creek Road right at the corner house.
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I totally misunderstood the thread title, I thought it was FOR meth adicts, pitbulls, & careless drivers...so I clicked on it.
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I'd call the cops and/or animal control anyway, to report the out of control, dangerous dog(s).
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Wow that's quite the ride you had there! Glad to hear you came out of it unscathed.
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This thread did remind me to find my mace to carry when I start commuting next week.
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yeah, i'd pack a mace, for sure:



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"To make things worse, this beast appeared to be a Pit Bull. "

There is a beast of a Pit Bull that chases me every time I come home from a ride also. Oh yeah, that's my dog.

Seriously, I work in Rancho and my parents live there. I sometimes ride from their house after work in the area you are referring to and sometimes I will ride to Lytle Creek from my house in San Dimas. That area used to be way worse when I first started riding in the late eighties. There were less cars but every house up there had loose dogs. If you didn't feel like sprinting, the water bottles wouldn't work. You would have to take off your frame pump and hit them over the head.
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"To make things worse, this beast appeared to be a Pit Bull. "

There is a beast of a Pit Bull that chases me every time I come home from a ride also. Oh yeah, that's my dog.
I love dogs-even pit bulls. I just don't like the ones that want to bite me.

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Seriously, I work in Rancho and my parents live there. I sometimes ride from their house after work in the area you are referring to and sometimes I will ride to Lytle Creek from my house in San Dimas. That area used to be way worse when I first started riding in the late eighties. There were less cars but every house up there had loose dogs. If you didn't feel like sprinting, the water bottles wouldn't work. You would have to take off your frame pump and hit them over the head.
I heard that the area around Lytle creek was really bad. I heard that a direct spray of water in the eyes could disuade some dogs. I don't want to try it though, it seems a lot like using a water gun on a bear. A dog intent on biting, especially the genetically enhanced, protection breeds, would careless if they get a little wet. I think pepper spray should be the last option. Sprinting is more fun anyways.
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look man. i work in rancho and live in riverside. hit me up. for reals.
I'm ready to ride on Sunday, and your welcome to join me. Anyone else in the area is welcome join. BTW, I sent you a PM.
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I love dogs-even pit bulls. I just don't like the ones that want to bite me.
I agree. My dog probably has some pit in it, and it is the sweetest, gentlest dog I have ever known. The problem is when the dog wants to bite. My plan of action is still to stop my bike and place it between me and Fido. I don't think dogs determine the difference between the bike and the rider, so this increases the likelyhood of it getting a mouth full of spokes or columbus tubing.

But the main reason for my strategy is most dogs are chasing for the fun of it, so when you stop running, the fun's over and they stop chasing. My parents' dogs used to chase me and nip my heals. They were just trying to herd me back home (no surprise, they were cattle dogs), so when I stopped riding they stopped chasing.

Still not sure what the best deterent for meth addicts is, though.
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Still not sure what the best deterent for meth addicts is, though.
a baggie filled with rock salt that drops out of your pocket and onto the road will have the meth heads heading towards the baggie and not you...
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a baggie filled with rock salt that drops out of your pocket and onto the road will have the meth heads heading towards the baggie and not you...
Now that sounds like a good idea.
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