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Old 01-15-07, 12:15 AM   #1
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Competed in my first Masters 50+ race

And got my butt whooped!

Rode the Tom's Farm Time Trial in Corona this morning. According to my friend's car, it was 29 degrees F when we got to the (dirt) parking lot. It was way too cold. Any moisture on the ground was ice.

My start time was 9:23 am so the temperature must have been close to 40 degrees by then but a water main or something broke near the start area flooding a section of road. They ended up moving the start to the other side of the flood which was OK for the race but we still had to ride across the flooded road gingerly. My clean and shiny time trial bike got fairly dirty.

So the road problem made the race shorter but that didn't help me. After being off of the bike for over a week because of the flu, the cold and a headwind on the outbound leg did not make for a good time (in more ways than one). Even though I hit 38 MPH on the way back, it didn't make up for "hitting" 12 MPH on the way out.

Anyway, I beat a few guys in my age group. I was 2 minutes behind 2nd place (don't ask about 1st place). My 21 MPH average was a lot slower than my last (23 mile) TT which was 24 MPH. I guess that I didn't want to set the bar too high for my first race of the year.
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Old 01-15-07, 12:29 AM   #2
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Wow man, that's kickin' azz!...I would bet just the thought of a slippery road, somewhere in the back of your head would have contributed to a slower time.
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Awesome job! Racing is tough enough (I can only imagine, since I've never done it)... but under those conditions, all the tougher. You pass the mettle test!
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I don't know about 9:23, but it was damn cold at 9:20 when I went off

I was #40, 50+. I must have been right in front of you. Got a 21:35 I think. Or maybe 21:45. I could NOT get my legs to warm up until 2/3 of the way to the turn around.

BTW, It was 32 at 9:05 when I rode to the start line.
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great race, I can't imagine doing TT races, sounds like FUN!!!!
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I love the Tom's Farms itt - I just wish I was in shape to ride it - at least it is ONLY about 10 or so miles from my house

Sounds like you did well - congraduations - and at least you got out and rode - under 40 - rollers for me!
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Did you have a huge cheeseburger and a dill pickle out of a barrel when you were done? That's the reward for even stopping at Tom's Farms.

/gj on the TT.
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don't feel bad, Cleave. One of my non-BF friends did the TFTT yesterday, too, and he had the same troubles -- too cold, the extra clothing he put on for warmth interfered with his riding, equipment failures due to the cold, ice on the road, the flooded start area, the head wind.

Remember -- if you walked off the course knowing that you did your absolute best that you could have done on that particular day, then you can be proud.

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Hi All,

Thanks so much for the kind words.

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I would bet just the thought of a slippery road, somewhere in the back of your head would have contributed to a slower time.
I did wonder about that at the start but the bigger problem was the two potholes that I hit head-on. Good thing tubulars don't pinch flat.

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Racing is tough enough but under those conditions, all the tougher. You pass the mettle test!
Did you mean mental test? I sometimes wonder at my wisdom for competing in certain weather conditions.

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I don't know about 9:23, but it was damn cold at 9:20 when I went off

I was #40, 50+. I must have been right in front of you. Got a 21:35 I think. Or maybe 21:45. I could NOT get my legs to warm up until 2/3 of the way to the turn around.

BTW, It was 32 at 9:05 when I rode to the start line.
Yep, you were just in front of me. I was #47. My time was 22:18. I guess I was delusional about the temperature. I definitely started too hard as my heart rate pegged within the first minute. You would think that after 32 years of racing I'd know how to moderate my starting efforts better.

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I can't imagine doing TT races, sounds like FUN!!!!
TTs are a great way to break into road racing. All of the pain with less risk of crashing.

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at least you got out and rode - under 40 - rollers for me!
If you dress right, the cold isn't too bad -- as long as the roads are dry.

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Did you have a huge cheeseburger and a dill pickle out of a barrel when you were done? That's the reward for even stopping at Tom's Farms.
For some strange reason we never eat at Tom's Farm. Next race there is in October so I'll have to convince my teammate to eat there too.

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don't feel bad, Cleave. One of my non-BF friends did the TFTT yesterday, too, and he had the same troubles -- too cold, the extra clothing he put on for warmth interfered with his riding, equipment failures due to the cold, ice on the road, the flooded start area, the head wind.

Remember -- if you walked off the course knowing that you did your absolute best that you could have done on that particular day, then you can be proud.
Yeah, I forgot about my balky shifter (I can't quite get the Campy thumb shift for the rear derailleur to work perfectly) and the extra clothes. However, I'm not that disappointed with the result and I always try to learn something from every race.
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Cleave, welcome to the 50+ side of life. Off the bike it's kinda cool since you don't have to pretend your still young. Racing wise, I totally dig it. The 50+ crits are very fast, but super safe, even compared to the 45+ ones. The fields aren't as big but they are much more competitive I think and it's non-stop fun from the whistle to the finish.

C ya out there big guy

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Great Job Cleave!
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Anyway, I beat a few guys in my age group. I was 2 minutes behind 2nd place (don't ask about 1st place). My 21 MPH average was a lot slower than my last (23 mile) TT which was 24 MPH. I guess that I didn't want to set the bar too high for my first race of the year.
Cleave, you done good. Doesn't sound like any butt whooping to me!
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Yep, you were just in front of me. I was #47. My time was 22:18. I guess I was delusional about the temperature. I definitely started too hard as my heart rate pegged within the first minute. You would think that after 32 years of racing I'd know how to moderate my starting efforts better.
I've also been racing since the later 70's, but just came out of a 10 year retirement. After riding the TT on Dec 10th, my "experienced" plan was to maintain 16 mph on the hill, but I also way underestimated the effect of the cold and pegged my HR about 300 yards into it and my speed dropped on the hill to 11-12 mph. Like an idiot, rather than just shift way down and left my legs warm up, I pushed hard and blew myself out before the top. It took most of the way out to recover and get back up to speed.

I'll be at the Dominguez Hill crit on 1/28 and the Piru TT on 2/4. Maybe I'll see you there. If I can find my arm warmers, I'll also be at Heritage park tonight. It sounds like we've got a few 50+ masters on BF.
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Cleave, welcome to the 50+ side of life. Off the bike it's kinda cool since you don't have to pretend your still young. Racing wise, I totally dig it. The 50+ crits are very fast, but super safe, even compared to the 45+ ones. The fields aren't as big but they are much more competitive I think and it's non-stop fun from the whistle to the finish.

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Hi Pat,

Well, obviously I've never ridden a 50+ crit but I'd like to think that they can't be more dangerous than some of the 40+ races that I've ridden. I know that there are some 50+ ex-pros but hopefully they aren't quite as dominant as Thurlow has been in the 40+ race.

I'm looking forward to a mass start race in this age group.

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Cleave, you done good. Doesn't sound like any butt whooping to me!
Phil and Mary Elizabeth, thanks for the votes of support.

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I'll be at the Dominguez Hill crit on 1/28 and the Piru TT on 2/4. Maybe I'll see you there. If I can find my arm warmers, I'll also be at Heritage park tonight. It sounds like we've got a few 50+ masters on BF.
Hi genedoc,

I won't be racing again until the Roger Millikan Memorial Criterium on Feb 11th. I'll be racing the Masters 50+ and the Masters 45+ races if all goes well. I'll be working at our (Lightning Velo) race at the velodrome on Jan 28th so I won't be able to do Dominguez Hills.
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Wow! you're 50?! I would not have guessed that! Dont be so hard on your self, its early in the season, its January for god sakes. My first race will be the Dominguez Hills also. I never got into the time trial scene. Good luck to you this racing season.
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I won't be racing again until the Roger Millikan Memorial Criterium on Feb 11th. I'll be racing the Masters 50+ and the Masters 45+ races if all goes well. I'll be working at our (Lightning Velo) race at the velodrome on Jan 28th so I won't be able to do Dominguez Hills.

I'll be there too. See you then.
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I'll be at both the Dominguez Hills and Brea crits. I really like the new course for the Roger Millikan Memorial, its a lot better then the old 4 corner one. I'll be racing for Simple Green this year so if you see me say hi.

here's to a good season

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I'll be at both the Dominguez Hills and Brea crits. I really like the new course for the Roger Millikan Memorial, its a lot better then the old 4 corner one. I'll be racing for Simple Green this year so if you see me say hi.

here's to a good season

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