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    Pie Ride recap

    Well the day started of with a stupid moment on my part. I met up with Jason (chucklehead) and James at Harrah's a lil after 8am. Group A already left, by about 30 minutes when i pulled in. I whipped out my singlespeed, yes I'm crazy/brave but more or less STUPID I thought it would be cool, and NOT that hard......OH BOY was I wrong. It was painful, slow and more pain. My offical time up the south grade was 1h59min 31sec BUT that did not include the COUNTLESS times I had to stop. I felt like a newb in the wrong place. The gearing was painful, I had to learn how to ride the SS up a Mt. Cadence was slow, real slow. I set small goals on my ride, get to the Fork, get to the top, get to Henshaw, get over Mesa Grande which was really painful and slow then get to Pie.

    After I got to Pie, I endulged just a bit, one slice of Dutch YUMMY, 2 PB cookies, 1 monster drink. Not feeling like climbing any more, I opted to the quickest route to Henshaw via 79 to 76 with Mark. The others climbed the backside of Mesa Grande and met us at Henshaw where I endulged in more suger, ICE CREAM with 20 miles to go LOL. Few minutes after I digested that, we were off, pace line with me pulling James, Dan and Mark at whatever pace I can handle. Pulled through most of the DH, about 5 minutes or so and moved to the back to restup for the two climbs coming up. The paceline dropped me which was fine, I was used to riding alone and my own pace. Coming up to the first climb, they waited for me and we dropped in line to start the climb. For once on the entire ride, my breathing fell into rythem and I was feeling good + still on my suger high from all the snacks. Took off at my pace where Dan caught me 3-4 miles later near the fork. I let them go ahead on the 6 mile DH down to the taco shop since I can't pedal more then 25mph. Once the grade pitched down I was tucking at 40+ hitting the hairpins to the long straight near the bottom where I made up time. They were about 100yrds ahead of me by the time I got to the taco shop.

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    here is the profile for the route Mark and I did, the group got more miles and more Ft. Both Jasons were bold and felling good and climb back up the East Grade as we went to the cars












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    More crummy cell phone pics -





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    awesome.

    i used to rip around out there on my motorcycle....greatest roads anywhere.

    i'd like to try it on my bicycle some day.

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    dumbest move EVER. for the life of me, i could NOT stay hydrated today. halfway up east grade i had the bonk from hell. i knew it was coming, too, so i had to leave jason and try to get it overwith before i died or something. in spite of a fast time up south grade on the way out, the final half of palomar east grade on 6-10-07 will go down as my worst day on a bike. ever. so far.

    thank god frank was there to keep an eye on us during the climb. he must have known what we were getting ourselves into. i don't know if i would have finished it otherwise. it was nice to see him parked along the side every couple of miles, ready to sag us to the top. i'm sure the pictures he took of that slogfest will be just great

    thanks again, frank!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Go_Fast
    awesome.

    i used to rip around out there on my motorcycle....greatest roads anywhere.
    there's about 10 times as many now as there was back in the mid-90's when i used to do it. way overcrowded. at least a lot of them were good enough to acknowledge us today by giving a honk and a wave.
    "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo daVinci

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    My 3 cents - a great time - assuming the Jasons survived.

    The climb up Palomar was much less of an ordeal than last time. I left with the 'turtles" at 7:30 and we made it up in something over 2hrs. My HR stayed in a sustainable range the whole time. During the descent on East Grade it had gotten warm enough to feel the heat off the road and hot wind as we approached Lake Henshaw, and I had my doubts as to whether I was going to want to ascend East Grade in the afternoon. At Henshaw we saw Frank (Grumpy Pig) at the 1st RAAM Check Station pretending like he was doing something productive on a Sunday. We were too early to see any riders pass through.

    Mesa Grande was exactly miserable as I remembered it, which is a kicker because the total elevation gain isn't all that big and it doesn't look like much of anything on the elevation chart as compared to the Palomar climb. The chart lies.

    The turtles had expected to be overtaken by the wabbits well before the Pie Shop, but since they got a late start and Jeff made the deranged choice of bringing a Single Speed, we arrived in Santa Ysabel and had our pie before they arrived, first Jason, then James, and finally Jeff.

    On the way back Jeff and Mark took the more direct route, while the rest of us went back via Mesa Grande which was not all that bad as the climbing is mostly gradual. We regrouped at Lake Henshaw, where the Jasons decided that there is no such thing as too much suffering and went for the return via East Grade Rd. Hopefully the Park Rangers will find them before the coyotes do. The rest of us took Hwy 76 back to Valley Center where are steamy hot cars waited.

    Thanks to Jeff for organizing this. I doubt I will want to do Palomar again until the fall when the weather cools down.

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    You guys are nuts. It was hot out there.

    I've got a bunch of pictures that I'll download tomorrow but this one sums it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Pig
    You guys are nuts. It was hot out there.

    I've got a bunch of pictures that I'll download tomorrow but this one sums it up.
    That's a lot of sweat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltman
    That's a lot of sweat.
    on my car.

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    Oh dang...sorry I missed it, but was given 20th row, field level, home dugout Padres tickets...took my parents and eldest kiddo. Great time, and the Padres ______. (no spoilers)

    I was thinking about y'all as I downed my 3rd $7.50 beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltman
    That's a lot of sweat.
    Ewww...I'm not sleeping next to him.

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    Probably smells like pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandy
    Ewww...I'm not sleeping next to him.
    "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo daVinci

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    You boys are tough! Jeff, you are crazy but not stupid. Chalk this up to a great endurance experience on your fixie. And Chuckles, you made it so that is what counts. All of you look great (and Dan, your crappy cell phone pics are just fine) - I love the pics posted, but you all do look HOT! Hope you enjoyed the pie that you all earned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucklehead
    Did you get my email? Shhhhh...it's sleepytime for you right now.

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    sleepy time? try eaty time. all i've eaten today are two waffles, 1/3 slice of pie(bleah), and a little bag of cheese puffs. it's subway footlong time for me
    "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." - Leonardo daVinci

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucklehead
    sleepy time? try eaty time. all i've eaten today are two waffles, 1/3 slice of pie(bleah), and a little bag of cheese puffs. it's subway footlong time for me
    Sorry chuckie, but your sleepytime started 6.5 hours ago. You're late! Now, shhhhh...sleepytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucklehead
    dumbest move EVER. for the life of me, i could NOT stay hydrated today. halfway up east grade i had the bonk from hell. i knew it was coming, too, so i had to leave jason and try to get it overwith before i died or something.
    Umm - he did make it back, yes? or is he still in a fetal position in the back of Frank's truck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merider1
    You boys are tough! Jeff, you are crazy but not stupid. Chalk this up to a great endurance experience on your fixie. And Chuckles, you made it so that is what counts. All of you look great (and Dan, your crappy cell phone pics are just fine) - I love the pics posted, but you all do look HOT! Hope you enjoyed the pie that you all earned.
    Quote Originally Posted by Botto
    Incorrect.
    That was pretty dumb...I mean, really.

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    According to the route slip, there's about 11,200 feet of climbing (and descending) in about 82 miles. So... that's 137 vertical feet per mile. Only two questions: (1) Whose crazy idea was this? (2) Why am I stupid enough to play along? That's on par with a Torrey Pines century (doing repeats on Torrey), which works out to about 133 vertical feet per mile. But unlike Torrey, this route actually has some flat-ish sections, so the rest is crazy steep. And unlike the beautiful coastal weather, it gets hot inland. Oh, one more question. (3) What's our next crazy ride?

    Thanks Frank for ensuring that Jason and I didn't get eaten by coyotes. Yes, we both made it up East Grade on our own power, but it was very reassuring to know that someone was watching out for us.

    Oh, and the obligatory ride report. The turtles climbed Palomar at a relatively relaxed pace, taking right around two hours from the taco shop to the general store. After a fun descent into Lake Henshaw, we hung out with Frank and the RAAM checkpoint crew for a while before heading over to Mesa Grande. The beginning section of Mesa Grande hurts, though I had a relatively good day in that regard. Got to the pie shop in Santa Ysabel, and finished off our pie as the wabbits rolled in. Stayed around to keep them company as they recuperated.

    Figuring that no one was stupid enough to do the East Grade climb, I decided to give a decidedly non-endurance effort on Mesa Grande on the return trip. It was fun. But then Jason convinced me to ride East Grade with him, and after about three miles into the climb, I was getting fatigued. Could ride hard, but my legs would hurt and possibly start cramping. Could ride slow, but then the climb would take longer. Opted to ensure a successful ride and slowed down to avoid burning out the legs. Jason went ahead, and I simply went at it at the best possible speed that didn't hurt the legs. I decided a snack at the top of Palomar was called for before descending to the cars. Not so much because there's much pedaling involved (there isn't) but because I was at risk of not thinking straight (not a good thing on a big descent) if I didn't feed my body some calories first. The ride ended with a fun descent to the cars, though there was some cramping as I tried to put in a good solid pedaling effort on the descent since there was no longer much point in holding back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucklehead
    there's about 10 times as many now as there was back in the mid-90's when i used to do it. way overcrowded. at least a lot of them were good enough to acknowledge us today by giving a honk and a wave.

    palomar is definitely overcrowded...so much that i quit riding up there 3 years ago.

    i like going out to sunrise highway and getting my knee down up there.

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    Can't say I really enjoyed this ride... Spent the first half, chasing Chucklebrains - all the way to pie. And the second half fighting off cramps. Too hot!

    Pie was a little disappointing... warm apple pie just isn't as good on a hot day. The chaser donut was equally meh.

    Kudos to Jeff for being an IDIOT on a single speed, to Jason for being a fast carrot to chase, to other Jason for being consistently solid and chasing the fast carrot up east grade when no one else would, to Dan for pacing me when my legs were misbehaving, and Mark for completing a really tough ride.

    Okay, I might have enjoyed it a little bit.
    - James

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    wow.
    so.
    sorry.
    I.
    missed.
    it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimivee

    Pie was a little disappointing... warm apple pie just isn't as good on a hot day. The chaser donut was equally meh.
    It is if you eat it with ice cream inside the shop where it's cool.

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