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Old 08-20-07, 03:08 PM   #1
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Planet Ultra King of the Mountains

One of the goals that has been kicking around in the back of my head has been to complete KOM and get a jersey (kewl!!--but not the socks-tacky).

So, a question or two for those who have completed it: What sort of training would you recommend? How difficult are the individual events? Should I use one event as training/prep for the following one?

Any and all advice is welcome.
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Old 08-20-07, 03:19 PM   #2
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Towing me up some of the hills will be good training!
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Old 08-20-07, 03:27 PM   #3
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I plan on completing the KOM next year as well. I did ride Heartbreak this year but that was probably the easiest one of the three. I just plan on continuing to ride as I do now which is 15-20,000 feet of elevation gain per week. Hopefully I won't lose too much over the winter.
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There are threads about this, but since you are bigger than me I will talk. The first is the Mulholland Challenge, most people thought it was the hardest of the three. It just goes up and down all day in the Santa Monicas, finishing with Stunt. It also does Decker and Cothrain, two of the steeper climbs out there. If you can do a century in the SM mountains, you can do the MC. We can do some of the course with you after the weather gets cooler.
The second is Breathless Agony, the hardest for me because of the sustained, relentless climb up to Onyx. I had stomach trouble and almost quit! I don't know how to tell you to train for a 35 mile climb, except to say learn your stomach and be careful what you eat. A lot of others had nausea, too.
The third is easier than the others and is one of my favorite loops, just don't underestimate the toughness of it, it's harder than it looks on paper. We could also pre-run that ride sometime, it's great.
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Old 08-20-07, 03:31 PM   #5
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I plan on completing the KOM next year as well. I did ride Heartbreak this year but that was probably the easiest one of the three. I just plan on continuing to ride as I do now which is 15-20,000 feet of elevation gain per week. Hopefully I won't lose too much over the winter.
If you can climb 20k per week, all these rides should be money in the bank for you. You should go for the doubles! Don't forget the Everest Challenge.
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There are threads about this, but since you are bigger than me I will talk.We could also pre-run that ride sometime, it's great.
Big John, you're a KOM title holder, yes? I'd love to train with you and His Verticalness as it gets cooler and closer to KOM season. I'm considering going for it next year myself.
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Big John, you're a KOM title holder, yes? I'd love to train with you and His Verticalness as it gets cooler and closer to KOM season. I'm considering going for it next year myself.
Wellll... I didn't sign up for all three so I didn't get the jersey. Time to work!
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I thought Mulholland was the hardest by a significant margin. I didn't like the flat, somewhat windy section in Heartbreak, but you will power through that with a smile on your face. The two best training rides in my opinion for KOM:

1) Angeles Crest (La Canada to Dawson's Saddle), which is steady, constant climbing with nothing too steep -- similar to Breathless Agony.

2) Any combo of Santa Monica canyon roads that adds up to 100 miles and includes Decker right in the middle -- basically just doing a MC practice run.
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Wellll... I didn't sign up for all three so I didn't get the jersey. Time to work!
Yeah, but you rode them. Jersey-schmersey! You going for it next year?
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If you can climb 20k per week, all these rides should be money in the bank for you. You should go for the doubles! Don't forget the Everest Challenge.
I've been thinking of riding Everest Challenge next year. I might do the Heartbreak double just to avoid the drive since it starts in Palmdale.
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I'm back, stupid job interupting my on-line time! Next year? If I do MC, I'll renegade it. Won't do BA, too far to drive for a ride I didn't like. Will do the Heartbreak anytime it's not too hot.
Vance, I have to disagree about AC being like the climb to Onyx. I love AC and the climb to Onyx sucks.
BTW, we may go to AC this Saturday and you all are welcome.
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I imagine the Mulholland is the worst for us big guys just because the climbs are so @#$@ steep. I know I can climb for a good long ways on when things aren't too steep (say GMR and Latigo). But, when the climbs are pushing past 10% I run out of gears and have to mash up those suckers. That kills my endurance. On the other hand, I've never tried a 35 mile climb....

I'm definitely giving the Mulholland a go next year and I'll determine my interest in the others by the amount of pain I feel after that.
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Pain is your friend, Ron. I suspect once you knock Mulholland out, you'll be excited to hit BA.
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Pain is your friend, Ron. I suspect once you knock Mulholland out, you'll be excited to hit BA.
Oh I know. I meant if I wasn't in any pain, I'd probably skip the rest of them.

As it is, I was in pain after Cool Breeze , I've got some serious training to do, base mileage time is done.
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I just plan on continuing to ride as I do now which is 15-20,000 feet of elevation gain per week. Hopefully I won't lose too much over the winter.
Wtf? Don't do KOM next year, I want to move up in the standings not go down Man you must be a stud. I'm lucky to get 20,000-30,000 feet in a month and I did KOM.
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I've got some serious training to do, base mileage time is done.
Really?...
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I imagine the Mulholland is the worst for us big guys just because the climbs are so @#$@ steep.
I'm definitely giving the Mulholland a go next year and I'll determine my interest in the others by the amount of pain I feel after that.
I have this problem. Floating around 190 at 5 ' 9'' I really suffer up those super steeps climbs. I'll take 6-8% all day, no problem, that's why I found BA to be easier then MC, plus your basically done climbing at mile 74.

You will also need to sign up for BA way before you ride MC because of the rider limit.
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You will also need to sign up for BA way before you ride MC because of the rider limit.
This is what my dissuade me from doing KOM. I hate having to sign up so far in advance.
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This is what my dissuade me from doing KOM. I hate having to sign up so far in advance.
So you're saying you have commitment problems?
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Wtf? Don't do KOM next year, I want to move up in the standings not go down Man you must be a stud. I'm lucky to get 20,000-30,000 feet in a month and I did KOM.
No way man, I want that jersey

I'm way too slow to be a stud. I have two choices here. Ride in the valley and fight that stupid wind or ride in the hills and avoid some of the wind. I choose the hills. So I guess a good training plan is to move to the Antelope Valley.
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So you're saying you have commitment problems?
Well, I hate to use cycling metaphors, but, if the cleat fits...
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Here is a shot of me and Andy on the climb to Angeles Oaks.

And two of my favorite women in the world.
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One of the goals has been to complete KOM and get a jersey (kewl!!--but not the socks-tacky).
You're saying these aren't sexy?!? I've been wearing them with my baggy shorts and sandals all summer!

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Here is a shot of me and Andy on the climb to Angeles Oaks.

And two of my favorite women in the world.
Great shots! Sarah and Cathy are super studettes. I aspire to be like them. Great shot of both.
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