jschen

Okay, sounds good to me. Assuming there isn't anything too terribly pressing for me to do at work this Saturday, I hope to be there. Are there directions to the start somewhere?

big john

I think Keith and some others are starting at the bottom around 6 or 6:30 and Bob and Christy are leaving Red Box early, maybe 7ish. I'm not sure if we'll catch them, but Keith will catch us.
Oh, and scvroadie, (Lee), said he wants to start at Charlton and do 75 miles. Charlton is a day use area about 8 or 9 miles further up Angeles Crest from Red Box.

big john

I know you've been there before. I'm not sure of the best way to get through the city, but if you're coming from the south, get to the 2 from the 134 and take the 2 to the 210 and go right toward Pasadena, the first exit is Angeles Crest. Turn left and go up about 14 miles to Red Box road. If coming via 405 to 118 to 210, AC is about 10-12 miles from the 118. From your parents, just take the 210 to AC.

jschen

Yup, been there, but don't remember the freeway exits. So it looks like I take I-5 north to CA-2 north to I-210 east, and then exit Angelest Crest and head up the road until I'm there. Does that sound right? If I recall correctly, I have to buy a parking permit at the Shell station or something, no? Thanks for the directions.

big john

Yeah, you got it. You can get an Adventure Pass at the Shell or some other stores like Sports Chalet. National forest websites have lists. I should look for a link.

jschen

Okay, cool. I hope to make it, but if I'm not there rolling at 8 AM from Red Box, don't go looking for me. Probably just means lab commitments kept me away.

vertical bob

I'm not sure when I'm starting, it looks like Grassy Hollow if I start at 8am and that's ok. Save some legs for GMR on Sunday. If I go to Wrightwood it will give me a chance to see whats on Newcomb's dinner menu on the way back.

AquaTerror

I'm not sure when I'm starting either ... probably earlier than 8, but not sure yet.

big john

Here is a shot from this ride on the 4th.

There is a little dirt section.

Cassave

Anybody interested in a 7:30 start from Redbox?

I'm thinkin' 8:00 is kinda late for a ride to Wrightwood and back.

thomson

Great pictures!!

jschen

I wouldn't mind starting earlier.

big john

What's with the dissention? If you want to ride with the group, start at 8:00. When you start suggesting different start times, it just confuses everyone. We have an e-mail list going around and this thread going and everyone has been told 8:00. If you want a different start time, next time when we first propose the ride, say it then. Or, start a thread for a ride and put whatever start time you want.
I can't figure out why anyone is concerned about starting early, unless they have to be somewhere.
If you guys are really concerned about time we could turn back at Grassy Hollow.

VanceMac

Big John has spoken! ..... ...

By the way, Keith and Manny are starting at the bottom at 6:45. Sounds like their plan is to do mt. wilson, then Dawson's, but turn around from there for an even 100.

jschen

I plan on being there, starting with the group at Red Box and going wherever they go. Can't wait.

big john

Vance, are you going with them? They're doing Mt Wilson first?

valleygirl

I may as well throw my plan out there . I plan on getting to Charlton flats at around 7:15 and riding down to meet whoever is riding up from Red Box . Last time getting to Red Box made for a late day and I would like to get to at least Grassy Hollow. Of course this all hinges on me getting up in time.
So there is my dissenting , John.

VanceMac

I am wavering. I don't think I have the mettle for both AC on Sat and Baldy on Sun.

big john

Now that's a good idea! Have you spoken to Carrie? She wants to go but she's not sure yet.

big john

Oh, please. If you come with the mortals and start at Red Box you will be fine. The climb of GMR/GRR is easy for you.

vertical bob

I like your idea Cathy, wanna carpool up from the park like before. How's 6:30?

Cassave

Good idea. Charlton down to Redbox to pickup the 8:00 starters.

I like finishing at Charlton instead of Redbox since I'd planned on going to the AWINER
dinner in Calabasas. Is this a go?

VanceMac

I guess I'm going to start with Keith and Manny. Hopefully we cross paths with y'all somewhere up there (unless you go to Wrightwood, in which case we probably won't see you).

AquaTerror

Change in plans for me. My hamstring has been bothering me this week & it's not healed enough for me to ride AC yet. So I'll do easier rides this weekend & live to climb another day. Have a great time ... I'll be thinking of you!

big john

Sorry to hear that, Aqua. Take it easy on that hammy and get Bruce to give you a massage.