Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > > >

Southern California Southern California

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-29-07, 01:42 PM   #1
1955
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
1955's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Pro & Iron Horse Mavrick 5.5
Posts: 3,564
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Woman dies after hit by bike.

That's the headline in the local section of the OC Register today. Looks like an older lady (68), walking on the San Diego Creek trail in Irvine near the 18000 block of Harvard Ave, made a quick turn to cross the trail and was hit by a 46 year old HB resident (no name given). The article states that she fell back and hit her head and died the next day. He wasn't charged or ticketed for the accident and an officer states that there is no speed limit on the county-owned trail, just normal caution to be observed.

http://www.ocregister.com/news/irvin...1-police-woman
__________________
Ralph (not Ralphie) on a Roubaix in
Huntington Beach, CA
& Iron Horse Maverick 5.5
1955 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 01:47 PM   #2
merider1
no more nellie
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 17,369
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sad for the woman and her family and sad for the cyclist. No-win, and definitely an "accident."
merider1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 01:58 PM   #3
1955
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
1955's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Bikes: Specialized Roubaix Pro & Iron Horse Mavrick 5.5
Posts: 3,564
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by merider1 View Post
Sad for the woman and her family and sad for the cyclist. No-win, and definitely an "accident."
Yeah, from the description, we've all seen it happen; you're coming up on someone and they do a quick stop, cross the trail to go the other way and don't even look back. I guess I can understand that to an extent, some of our bikes are VERY quiet. I'm not saying that's what happened, but who knows. The paper also gives a number for any witnesses to call. The article says the guy was riding a "Giant TCR road bicycle worth several thousand dollars"...whatever that had to do with anything.
__________________
Ralph (not Ralphie) on a Roubaix in
Huntington Beach, CA
& Iron Horse Maverick 5.5
1955 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 02:15 PM   #4
Pamestique 
Shredding Grandma!
 
Pamestique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: So Cal
Bikes: I don't own any bikes
Posts: 4,798
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Oh no. How awful! I really feel for her family and the cyclist as well. I bet he feels awful! My prayers are out to both families.

I ride that trail all the time and have often wondered if there have been any serious cyclist v. pedestrian accidents. I'm guilty at times of probably traveling too fast on the bike trail. Geez I hope they don't close the trail down. So many other trails in Irvine have already been closed due to repairs and construction.

BTW, FYI there is a statute that says if a person is injured on a bike path maintained by an city, the City is protected from liability. ie, you can't sue them. Just something for us all to consider while out riding.
Pamestique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 02:19 PM   #5
ggallin
cedar street slut
 
ggallin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ojai
Bikes: http://velospace.org/node/4490
Posts: 481
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
u lock justice for whoever rides a giant tcr road bicycle worth several thousand dollars.
ggallin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 02:31 PM   #6
mateo44
mateo for short
 
mateo44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Irvine, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,973
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ggallin View Post
u lock justice for whoever rides a giant tcr road bicycle worth several thousand dollars.
Huh?
__________________
<< no sig at this time >>
mateo44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 02:42 PM   #7
heresy
Senior Member
 
heresy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Santee, CA
Bikes: Orbea Orca SLT, Orbea Mitis, Specialized Allez SE
Posts: 340
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Sad.

In college I was hit while running on that trail, near the Ralphs shopping center (Harvard and Main). Four or five guys riding abreast. One caught my arm and I went down. Skinned knees and hands for me, and the cyclists never stopped. I hated cyclists for a long time after that.

Ten years later and I was riding there frequently, and always gave pedestrians a lot of room.
heresy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 02:46 PM   #8
tt1106
Senior Member
 
tt1106's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Bikes:
Posts: 109
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
That's really too bad. I'm sure some legislator will look for an opportunity to require some additional safety devices, like proximity alarms.
Unfortunately this only proves that life is very random.
tt1106 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 03:26 PM   #9
lyeinyoureye
Senior Citizen
 
lyeinyoureye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: no
Bikes: yes
Posts: 1,347
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
It seems to me that one of these incidents pops up every couple years, and they usually involve an elderly ped.
lyeinyoureye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 04:58 PM   #10
Pamestique 
Shredding Grandma!
 
Pamestique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: So Cal
Bikes: I don't own any bikes
Posts: 4,798
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Just an FYI for anyone - if you ride the San Diego Creek trail often you know of the large Korean/Chinese church at the corner of Havard and University. On the weekends it is an extremely busy chuch and people use the bike trail to walk to church or walk after. Alot of the older men and women are small and frail, many I bet under 100 lbs. Please ride with caution and just know this is an area that need to be watched. I always slow down nearing the church. It is a multi-use trail that means walkers, joggers, skaters, old people, young, bicyclists, commuters - all sorts of beings are there using it. Not saying don't enjoy your ride but just be aware.
Pamestique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 05:24 PM   #11
Jaguar27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What a shame...that's happened right where I live......my thoughts are with the ladies family...and of course the Cyclist....
Jaguar27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 05:33 PM   #12
Jaguar27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I know....they need to put a Fence up to prevent kids running out onto the trail...
Jaguar27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 05:49 PM   #13
Jeronimo_
Banned.
 
Jeronimo_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Behind The Orange Curtain
Bikes: A bunch of 'em
Posts: 267
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Anyone who is riding at excessive speeds near elderly or very young individuals on foot or bicycle while on a MUP is a selfish and reckless fool.
Jeronimo_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 05:56 PM   #14
LCI_Brian
Senior Member
 
LCI_Brian's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: in the hills of Orange, CA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,355
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Way back when, my driving instructor said, "If a meteor falls on your windshield and you crash, it's an accident. Anything else is human error."
LCI_Brian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 06:01 PM   #15
Nosra451
Nosra
 
Nosra451's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Orange County Calif
Bikes: Madone and Vitus Carbon-3
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Also for the record - the estimated speed of the cyclist was listed at 15 mph.
Nosra451 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 06:12 PM   #16
Nosra451
Nosra
 
Nosra451's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Orange County Calif
Bikes: Madone and Vitus Carbon-3
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My heart goes out to the family and the cyclist. In addition, I rode off of hwy 138 coming out of Crestline last Friday and fell down down 150 foot hillside, after crashing through two pine trees. No road-side barriers to stop me; no call boxes; no one stopped to help me; I was going too fast for the hairpin left-hand turn. I crashed. Then I rode 30 miles back to the car. I'm not suing the county for the torn-up asphalt and debris on the road, or the lack of barriers; my torn jersey, bibs, and smashed computer and broken chain. Not to mention my injuries.
Nosra451 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 06:14 PM   #17
DaveSANYYZ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: 1999 Norco ht mtb/2006 C'dale road bike/2007 Colnago CLX
Posts: 2,698
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Wow, sorry to hear that Bill. Are you ok?
DaveSANYYZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 06:15 PM   #18
Jaguar27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Bikes:
Posts: 548
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
That's right Brian...that's why I always find it odd every time I see a Police vehicle with "Accident investigation unit " written on the side....an accident is the culmination of a sequence of events leading up to a crash...
I guess by accident they just mean someone didn't deliberately set out to do it??
Jaguar27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 06:17 PM   #19
Nosra451
Nosra
 
Nosra451's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Orange County Calif
Bikes: Madone and Vitus Carbon-3
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Cuts and bruises on both legs, bruised kidney, theigh and shins are that weird shade of green. Scabs are coming off now. But thanks. Martial arts taught me how to fall.
Nosra451 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 08:09 PM   #20
Extort
Dagger Boy
 
Extort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern California
Bikes: 1999 GT 5.0i mountain, 2004 Basso Reef road
Posts: 3,247
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosra451 View Post
Cuts and bruises on both legs, bruised kidney, theigh and shins are that weird shade of green. Scabs are coming off now. But thanks. Martial arts taught me how to fall.
Glad to hear that you came out somewhat okay...

I feel bad for both parties on the trail... I know that I ride down that path at 25+ at times, but I also have a bell to warn people I am coming... Hopefully they are not wearing ipods in both ears and can hear me...
__________________
Women think they're so clever because they can fake an orgasm for the sake of a relationship, but men can fake a whole relationship for the sake of an orgasm.
Extort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 09:39 PM   #21
Nosra451
Nosra
 
Nosra451's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: North Orange County Calif
Bikes: Madone and Vitus Carbon-3
Posts: 207
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I know that I ride down that path at 25+ at times, but I also have a bell to warn people I am coming... Hopefully they are not wearing ipods in both ears and can hear me...

Me too, good point.
Nosra451 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-07, 09:45 PM   #22
GP 
Senior Member
 
GP's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 7,582
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosra451 View Post
Cuts and bruises on both legs, bruised kidney, theigh and shins are that weird shade of green. Scabs are coming off now. But thanks. Martial arts taught me how to fall.
glad you're OK.

Didn't you have a crash last year?
GP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 03:18 PM   #23
Dizzy
Not so fast now.....
 
Dizzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Aliso Viejo, Ca
Bikes: GT Rage - 1995
Posts: 237
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosra451 View Post
Cuts and bruises on both legs, bruised kidney, theigh and shins are that weird shade of green. Scabs are coming off now. But thanks. Martial arts taught me how to fall.
Hmmm. Sir Isaac Newton taught me how to fall and his method hurts.
Dizzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 04:43 PM   #24
Jeronimo_
Banned.
 
Jeronimo_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Behind The Orange Curtain
Bikes: A bunch of 'em
Posts: 267
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nosra451 View Post
Martial arts taught me how to fall.
Just be glad I have fast reflexes...

Jeronimo_ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-07, 05:29 PM   #25
Pamestique 
Shredding Grandma!
 
Pamestique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: So Cal
Bikes: I don't own any bikes
Posts: 4,798
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
OK am I the only one that thinks it's just wrong to go from some poor woman dying to Jeff Spigoli? Am just saying....
Pamestique is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:48 AM.