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Old 09-18-07, 04:09 PM   #1
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CHINO HILLS MTB, beginner friendly!

Well now,
all you folks that like being dirty,
or would like to see if you enjoy being dirty,
this is the ride for you!

Carbon canyon is a beginner friendly Mtb ride in chino hills.
the mileage should be 10-15 miles depending on options taken.


Saturday the 29th!
OK, now let's see who Really likes gettin' dirty!!
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Here is a MAP of the start point/ parking area.
Enter on Lambert, and turn LEFT once in the park.
Drive to the very end and park.

I updated the placemark, use the Satellite image for a really accurate idea of where to park!!

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Meet 8:30
Ride 9:00

Should be done by noon at the very latest with a ride to 4 corners,
and a short singletrack up and back.

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Hmmm I have only gone up Northridge...
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Hmmm I have only gone up Northridge...
No, you need to go DOWN northridge..
It's all about the downhill....
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No, you need to go DOWN northridge..
It's all about the downhill....
Yeah....my last downhill on Telegraph I wiped out before the water crossing...
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Well, Drew, I really need BEGINNERS - as in fire road type of deal and neither this Sundy nor the 29th work for me (Grand Tour and the Lighthouse Century).
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Beginner friendly, you say???
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Beginner friendly, you say???
Yes...we have no skillz.....
BTW..hows the foot?
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Im a beginner not by choice!!!
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Very colorful, thank you for asking. Getting better everyday and I can ride.
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Not that anyone here is a real beginner - you all are experienced cyclists with a good fitness level and understanding of how a bike work. I've actually taken new riders on Telegraph and they have done fine xcept for the fitness thing. To 4 Corners and back it's 12 miles - 6 up and 6 down.

Telegraph Canyon in Chino Hills up to 4 Corners is a perfect "beginner" ride. It's a nice graded fire road. There are some dry stream crossings but they are fairly easy and there are some small climbs but with this groups fitness level they should be no problem. None of them are gnarly, rocky, rutted etc. It's a graded fire road. Only problem right now, until it rains or the next Snata Ana is heavy sand and silt.

I would recommend after reaching 4 Corners and enjoying the view coming straight back on Telegraph. It's a great, fun downhill. But if the group wants more of a challenge try Bovinan Delight to South Ridge and back to Carbon Canyon (I'm assuming the ride starts in Carbon Canyon). You can also try Sycamore to North Ridge but I would say this is more advance beginner/intermidiate stuff especially right now with the heavy silt on Northridge and ruts on Sycamore.

Have fun - it's my favorite place to ride. Herb - there is no more water (well only one small one left). It's very dry there right now.
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No, you need to go DOWN northridge..
It's all about the downhill....
humm yah, no one warned me about North Ridge when I was on my singlespeed, what a BUTT KICKER
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Very colorful, thank you for asking. Getting better everyday and I can ride.
Glad to hear it...missed ya Sat..hopefully will see you at PV!
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Not that anyone here is a real beginner - you all are experienced cyclists with a good fitness level and understanding of how a bike work. I've actually taken new riders on Telegraph and they have done fine xcept for the fitness thing. To 4 Corners and back it's 12 miles - 6 up and 6 down.

Telegraph Canyon in Chino Hills up to 4 Corners is a perfect "beginner" ride. It's a nice graded fire road. There are some dry stream crossings but they are fairly easy and there are some small climbs but with this groups fitness level they should be no problem. None of them are gnarly, rocky, rutted etc. It's a graded fire road. Only problem right now, until it rains or the next Snata Ana is heavy sand and silt.

I would recommend after reaching 4 Corners and enjoying the view coming straight back on Telegraph. It's a great, fun downhill. But if the group wants more of a challenge try Bovinan Delight to South Ridge and back to Carbon Canyon (I'm assuming the ride starts in Carbon Canyon). You can also try Sycamore to North Ridge but I would say this is more advance beginner/intermidiate stuff especially right now with the heavy silt on Northridge and ruts on Sycamore.

Have fun - it's my favorite place to ride. Herb - there is no more water (well only one small one left). It's very dry there right now.

Well..I sort of agree...but what I found was I didnt know where/how to shift my weight....so on a couple of the climbs...especially the one right at 4 corners...I would stand up and then my rear wheel would spin...I had to jump off once as I lost all momentum...but it just takes some practice....
I think I have ridden up Northridge and down Sycamore...that was a bit intense...

BTW..I sort of liked the water crossings!
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Telegraph Canyon in Chino Hills up to 4 Corners is a perfect "beginner" ride. It's a nice graded fire road. There are some dry stream crossings but they are fairly easy and there are some small climbs but with this groups fitness level they should be no problem. None of them are gnarly, rocky, rutted etc. It's a graded fire road. Only problem right now, until it rains or the next Snata Ana is heavy sand and silt.

I would recommend after reaching 4 Corners and enjoying the view coming straight back on Telegraph. It's a great, fun downhill. But if the group wants more of a challenge try Bovinan Delight to South Ridge and back to Carbon Canyon (I'm assuming the ride starts in Carbon Canyon). .
I like this ride, too...+1 perfect for beginners..(I'm a forever beginner)

If only I hadn't swerved to avoid that tarantula...
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BTW..I sort of liked the water crossings!
Several years ago after the big rains, Chino Hills was closed to everyone but us bikers went back in and rode. The entire trail up to 4 Corners was an intense, technical little singletrack and talk about water crossings. I don't think I was ever able to sucessfully cross one but it was fun trying!!! I loved Chino when it was messed up and sadly the day came when the bulldozers came in and graded the trail. =sigh= all the fun stuff gone just like that.

Hopefully we will get some rain this year and the stream crossings will fill up again. Right now all are dry except one and even that is a small tickle.

OK - whether to do Northridge to Sycamore or Sycamore to Northridge. Have done it both ways many times and for some reason I prefer Northridge up and then down Sycamore. I don't mind climbing up Sycamore, it's easier then the first part of Northridge but once you hit Northridge, there is still alot of tough climbing to do, all in very heavy silt. And I frankly rather have the downhill from Telegraph then Northride but yes I like tamer things.

Now if you want to do a hairy downhill - try McDermott from Northridge. Scary! A month ago while sitting at 4 Corners I watch this guy ride by and then up McDermott. Quite a feat. He then came back down and over to 4 Corners and we all notice, at the same time his single speed! Yes he was a manly-man fer sure!!!
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And yes mountain biking is much different than road riding. You really can't power the bike up hills. You have to trust your gears and your cadence. Good riders have a beautiful, smooth pedal stoke (mine needs work) and they set the bike in a lower gear and spin up the hill. It's a learned skill that is for sure.

BTW - learned Saturday (well I already knew) that you have to have some speed going up hills. I was following someone, and he came upon a slight incline covered with baby heads and slowed down. I had to scrub speed to avoid hitting him and knew immediately I was doomed. I had hope to power the bike up the hill but I hit a large baby head and the bike stopped completely. Think "Laugh In", over I went. Thankfully only the pride was hurt!
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And yes mountain biking is much different than road riding. You really can't power the bike up hills.

Ture for most, but it's the only way to ride on a SS Full body work out to get up some of them hill, North Ridge on 2:1 ratio was burtal long. Would I do it again, you bet NOW i know how long that bugger was
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Beginner mtb ride! Maybe for the 29th.

The route doesn't have a cliff on one side, right?
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I've been to Chino Hills 2x. The first time we went, we used the Chino Hills entrance in the neighborhood with the steep rock road entrance (about .5mi from the paved road). We weren't sure we were in the right place b/c of all of the morning fog, so we left.

The second time we went, we went to the same entrance, parked on the street riding our bikes UP the steep road. We rode on the fire road for a bit, then got to the opening trail, where my cousin proceeded to get a flats on both tires.

We head back, and I proposed that I ride back to get the car and then pick him up. I ride back, a then truck passes me. With my cousin on the back with is bike.

Maybe one day I'll try Chino Hills again.
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Beginner mtb ride! Maybe for the 29th.

The route doesn't have a cliff on one side, right?
one of the single tracks has an itty bitty cliff one the side
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one of the single tracks has an itty bitty cliff one the side
Teeny tiny

But some folks could stop at 4 corners and go no further. That's still a nice ride...
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Maybe one day I'll try Chino Hills again.
I really recommend coming in from the Carbon Canyon side. If you don't want to pay for parking you can park on Vesuvius (sp?) off of Rose and ride up into the back side of the park. For beginners I do recommend starting inside the park.
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I can do this sunday, I'm more commitment phobic about next Saturday.
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Ok, I'm goin' out on a limb here and next Saturday the 29th, meet at 8:30, ride at 9:00.
Parking at Carbon Canyon entrance. I pretty sure its $5 to park, but you do get a nice
paved parking area, some bathrooms, and the trails!


Here is a MAP of the start point/ parking area.
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