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Old 10-17-07, 08:01 AM   #951
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FSA or Campagnolo?
How about Shimano? My indexed front shifting seems to work pretty well for me.
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Old 10-17-07, 08:03 AM   #952
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FSA or Campagnolo?

Sacha's having some "work done" at the end of the month. New compact handlebars, new wrap (haven't decided yet), Record skeletons. I'm also replacing her 50 chainring. It hasn't been shifting as fast as I'd like under load and my mechanic, Manny, pointed out that the backside of the S-Works ring has less ramp than some other brands. So the question is.... do I go with the black FSA outer ring (which would look very cool on Sacha) or double the price and keep my gal true to Campy? And if I go with the FSA, should I swap out both 50/34 rings to stay OCP? I really don't need to, but..........

(We're off to ride. Sacha and I will discuss this while we're on the road)

Joy, my guess is that it shifts just fine. A compact crank is going to take longer to get to the large ring because of the increased tooth difference. I doubt you will notice a difference replacing the large ring. You have 20,000-30,000 miles left in it, I would wear it out first before deciding upgrade paths.
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Old 10-17-07, 08:37 AM   #953
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Joy, my guess is that it shifts just fine. A compact crank is going to take longer to get to the large ring because of the increased tooth difference. I doubt you will notice a difference replacing the large ring. You have 20,000-30,000 miles left in it, I would wear it out first before deciding upgrade paths.
I agree. I have an FSA compact (although the lower end Gossamer), and the shifting is definitely slower and less precise than the standard double (also FSA Gossamer) it replaced. Some people replace the 34 inner with a 36t ring, which preserves the 14t jump that you have with a standard double.
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You guys are probably right, but I'm going to experiment with it anyway since Sacha's already scheduled for the shop. My shifting is actually pretty good except, as I pointed out, the few times I do it under load. I do have the Shimano option, too. I still have some time to figure it out, so I'll have to do some more homework.

BTW, it's been a light rain/heavy drizzle for a couple of hours now. I got soggy cold and now don't feel like riding anymore. I'm a wuss.
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Old 10-17-07, 08:48 AM   #955
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BTW, it's been a light rain/heavy drizzle for a couple of hours now. I got soggy cold and now don't feel like riding anymore. I'm a wuss.
I just bailed on my wed ride, too. Combination of the dreariness, and not being motivated to ride my crappy back-up bike again.
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Sacha's cranks are not Campy?

Why are you bothering to upgrade your already-Campy brakes when you have that huge unwelcome interloper of a crank clinging to Sacha like an unsightly zit?

Campy Record Carbon Compact. This instant. No wonder Sacha's shifting is off. It's a cry for help.
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Good early morning ride. La Tuna definitely is more heavily trafficked on weekday mornings. A lot of folks driving way too fast to get to the 210.
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Sacha's cranks are not Campy?

Why are you bothering to upgrade your already-Campy brakes when you have that huge unwelcome interloper of a crank clinging to Sacha like an unsightly zit?

Campy Record Carbon Compact. This instant. No wonder Sacha's shifting is off. It's a cry for help.
Dan!!!!

Sacha came with the S-Works crankset. I have had no problems with the cranks so far, but I'll experiment with the chainrings. The only cranky thing I'm wondering about is the new low-profile set from Fulcrum. I'm intrigued, to say the least. And Fulcrum is Campy, as you know!

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Fulcrum is OK. I guess.
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Joy, my guess is that it shifts just fine. A compact crank is going to take longer to get to the large ring because of the increased tooth difference. I doubt you will notice a difference replacing the large ring. You have 20,000-30,000 miles left in it, I would wear it out first before deciding upgrade paths.
I agree also.... I am willing to bet no noticeable difference in shifting performance with a ring replacement.

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FSA or Campagnolo?

Sacha's having some "work done" at the end of the month. New compact handlebars, new wrap (haven't decided yet), Record skeletons. I'm also replacing her 50 chainring. It hasn't been shifting as fast as I'd like under load and my mechanic, Manny, pointed out that the backside of the S-Works ring has less ramp than some other brands. So the question is.... do I go with the black FSA outer ring (which would look very cool on Sacha) or double the price and keep my gal true to Campy? And if I go with the FSA, should I swap out both 50/34 rings to stay OCP? I really don't need to, but..........

(We're off to ride. Sacha and I will discuss this while we're on the road)
That's not even a legitimate question.

Campy and be done with it.
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Old 10-17-07, 09:38 AM   #962
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rode to work today, nice day for it to mist a lil, bike didn't get too dirty, gave it a quick detailing before the water dried up.
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I just bailed on my wed ride, too. Combination of the dreariness, and not being motivated to ride my crappy back-up bike again.
I got downright wet on the ride in to work.
Good thing my commuter sprouted fenders over the weekend.

Interesting, with a dayglo green rain jacket and a PB superflash blinkie on full boil
I got buzzed about 4 times more than on a normal dry morning,
guess they couldn't see me.
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mine is only 4 miles
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I assume your S-works compact crank is 110 BCD, in which case Campy won't work. For some reason, Campy chose to NOT make their chainrings 110 BCD when they came out with their compact crank design.
Dang!....someone else had mentioned this to me before. I completely forgot about this and ordered a Stronglight 36T ring (Nashbar branded) just yesterday to replace my 34. Oh well.....I think I only paid $10 for it anyway.
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Old 10-17-07, 10:11 AM   #966
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What's happened with all this rain....uhhhgg...no riding...mainly because i am not that hardcore.
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its just mist, if I can get married in the rain, I can ride in the rain LOL
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i don't mind...but the commute is sucky as everything gets wet...just riding i don't mind...i actually kinda like it in a sick twisted lance armstrong commercial kinda way..
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FSA or Campagnolo?

Sacha's having some "work done" at the end of the month. New compact handlebars, new wrap (haven't decided yet), Record skeletons. I'm also replacing her 50 chainring. It hasn't been shifting as fast as I'd like under load and my mechanic, Manny, pointed out that the backside of the S-Works ring has less ramp than some other brands. So the question is.... do I go with the black FSA outer ring (which would look very cool on Sacha) or double the price and keep my gal true to Campy? And if I go with the FSA, should I swap out both 50/34 rings to stay OCP? I really don't need to, but..........
As others have pointed out, that's a joke right?

I have FSA compact cranks, it simply won't shift to the big ring under load. I don't often need to make that kind of shift, so it's not that big of a deal to me. However, it's still high on my list to upgrade. I'm waiting to hear how people like the ultegra sl compact crank.
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I've always made it a habit of not shifting chainrings under load with road bikes. I run Campy compacts and I have no idea how they would perform under load.
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i don't mind...but the commute is sucky as everything gets wet...just riding i don't mind...i actually kinda like it in a sick twisted lance armstrong commercial kinda way..
your commute is ALOT longer, I'm only out there 15-20 minutes MAX
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It's actually quite nice now. I think I'll sneak out for a quick run.
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I rode into work today. Finally decided to start wearing my fleece cycling tights again. Much warmer and my knees are happier.
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I've always made it a habit of not shifting chainrings under load with road bikes. I run Campy compacts and I have no idea how they would perform under load.
I think the other thing is that Joy is coming from a triple, where the jump between middle to big chainring is only 10 teeth (if the middle was a 42). That is a MUCH easier shift than the 16 tooth jump between rings on a compact double. I know with my FSA compact, shifting is quite finicky - it will sometimes drop off the inside going down, and sometimes throw the chain completely over and off the outside ring when going up.
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I'm sweating like mad right now even though all I wore were shorts and short sleeves in this 64 degree weather (current temp) for a quick 1-hour ride. I have no idea how I survived the high temperatures during the summer.
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